Why you should buy Treadwell

[joeya2001]

That meat analogy was one of the most stupid comparisons I have ever read on this board. Congratulations. I guess it at least says a lot about the intelligence level on that side of the debate.

Fantasy players are a lot more like a stock market, not the difference betweem cheap and premium cuts of meat.

I guess you weren't done, says a lot about your word......

[joeya2001]

Because there are people out there that would rather have a late 3rd or a 4th than a guy like Treadwell.

in leagues that size with monster size rosters that size, a 3rd is not cheap at all.

Just going off DLF's rankings, let's assume late 3rd being pick 36 - that would be Deon Cain in their rankings.
For their WR rankings - Treadwell is 82, Cain is 90.

So I would say that is a good price to pay for Treadwell.

You are clearly not someone with much experience in deep leagues based on a number of your comments already - so perhaps you should leave this part to people who do.

I can't believe I'm defending Treadwell. I hated him pre-draft and you can find those posts. But my point still stands, you can do a lot worse for a cheap flier than him. I'm done here.

incase people needed to see

I knew if I egged you out you couldn't help but to resist a easy insult,

guess you play fantasy like you play real life....acquire the low hanging fruit

Remember all these guys are telling you to buy a bust not because he's any good, but because he once was believed to be good.
Not because he has shown us he can play in the NFL, but because he use to be a 1st round talent.

They base their facts on belief, not on what is actually going on!!!

I cant wait to come back to this thread at the end of the season to hear you defend Treadwell how great of a value he is!!!!

then I will point you to the dollar store steak and tell you how great of a value that is, then you can compare the taste to the stock market!!!

Then like that steak you can eat your own words!!!!

Remember all these guys are telling you to buy a bust not because he's any good, but because he once was believed to be good.
Not because he has shown us he can play in the NFL, but because he use to be a 1st round talent.

They base their facts on belief, not on what is actually going on!!!

[Valhalla]

in leagues that size with monster size rosters that size, a 3rd is not cheap at all.

Just going off DLF's rankings, let's assume late 3rd being pick 36 - that would be Deon Cain in their rankings.
For their WR rankings - Treadwell is 82, Cain is 90.

So I would say that is a good price to pay for Treadwell.

You are clearly not someone with much experience in deep leagues based on a number of your comments already - so perhaps you should leave this part to people who do.

I can't believe I'm defending Treadwell. I hated him pre-draft and you can find those posts. But my point still stands, you can do a lot worse for a cheap flier than him. I'm done here.

incase people needed to see

I knew if I egged you out you couldn't help but to resist a easy insult,

guess you play fantasy like you play real life....acquire the low hanging fruit

I cant wait to come back to this thread at the end of the season to hear you defend Treadwell how great of a value he is!!!!

then I will point you to the dollar store steak and tell you how great of a value that is!!

Then like that steak you can eat your own words!!!!

Equates to pointing at a penny stock that didn't take off, and yelling at the investor, "I told you that investment was a waste of time, you moron!" Meanwhile, the penny stock investor kicks back and relishes on the worthless Bitcoins he took a shot on.

I'm not a Treadwell backer, but the insults are a little absurd. You'll likely be in position to say "I told you so," but the investor knows that...as most 4th round rookies or free agents are likely to be a waste of time.

[joeya2001]

Just going off DLF's rankings, let's assume late 3rd being pick 36 - that would be Deon Cain in their rankings.
For their WR rankings - Treadwell is 82, Cain is 90.

So I would say that is a good price to pay for Treadwell.

You are clearly not someone with much experience in deep leagues based on a number of your comments already - so perhaps you should leave this part to people who do.

I can't believe I'm defending Treadwell. I hated him pre-draft and you can find those posts. But my point still stands, you can do a lot worse for a cheap flier than him. I'm done here.

incase people needed to see

I knew if I egged you out you couldn't help but to resist a easy insult,

guess you play fantasy like you play real life....acquire the low hanging fruit

I cant wait to come back to this thread at the end of the season to hear you defend Treadwell how great of a value he is!!!!

then I will point you to the dollar store steak and tell you how great of a value that is!!

Then like that steak you can eat your own words!!!!

Equates to pointing at a penny stock that didn't take off, and yelling at the investor, "I told you that investment was a waste of time, you moron!" Meanwhile, the penny stock investor kicks back and relishes on the worthless Bitcoins he took a shot on.

I'm not a Treadwell backer, but the insults are a little absurd. You'll likely be in position to say "I told you so," but the investor knows that...as most 4th round rookies or free agents are likely to be a waste of time.

Val this is in no way of a insult, I actually like reading your posts.

With that said

If one is to invest into penny stocks, in order to see any kind of profitable gains one must play with at least 1000$

I'm in finances, I would in no way advise anyone to invest in to penny stocks they are a terrible idea!!
Id advise anyone to invest into something with good dividends and reinvest that like tobacco companies, banks, or electric companies.

https://www.thebalance.com/investing-in ... dea-357203

to give you an idea, if you invested 1000 into a stock TLSA in 2010 which opened at 19.20$ (not a penny stock) today you would have roughly 12k

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/if-you- ... e-now.html

That is what I would call a investment worth getting into.

Treadwell is not a person id consider a start up to "invest" into

if were saying Treadwell is a penny stock, again stay away!!

[joeya2001]

btw is this turning into a popcorn thread??!!

[joeya2001]

Double post

[smbkrypt24]

Edmonds was a FA in my league didn't have to pay anything

Here is my post if you needed proof!!

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=165956

id like to hear some great examples of players on your roster that were once first round talents and 2 years later you bought dirt cheap that turned out to be good??!!

While this player did at least have yards his first two years, Davantee Adams, in 2016 his adp was 152, could be had in the 13th round of a startup, all because people gave up after two years.

Mark Ingram had a very low ADP before 2016 as well before he posted back to back 1000 yard seasons.

Not saying Treadwell is the next Adams, but he is still worth a flyer.

well there you have it to all that's reading, buy Treadwell....lol

I was reading through the last page and saw it came to insults and thought these conversations should never go there. Then I scrolled back to see why that was the case. I found this and can understand why some posters became frustrated with you. You asked for a few examples and they were provided. You then dismiss exactly what you asked for with your post. It seems you have an issue with applying knowledge provided to help form opinions. Regardless of the issue it should be everyones goal to grow and learn from each other instead of being dismissive and ignorant.

[thebeast]

incase people needed to see

I knew if I egged you out you couldn't help but to resist a easy insult,

guess you play fantasy like you play real life....acquire the low hanging fruit

I cant wait to come back to this thread at the end of the season to hear you defend Treadwell how great of a value he is!!!!

then I will point you to the dollar store steak and tell you how great of a value that is!!

Then like that steak you can eat your own words!!!!

Equates to pointing at a penny stock that didn't take off, and yelling at the investor, "I told you that investment was a waste of time, you moron!" Meanwhile, the penny stock investor kicks back and relishes on the worthless Bitcoins he took a shot on.

I'm not a Treadwell backer, but the insults are a little absurd. You'll likely be in position to say "I told you so," but the investor knows that...as most 4th round rookies or free agents are likely to be a waste of time.

Val this is in no way of a insult, I actually like reading your posts.

With that said

If one is to invest into penny stocks, in order to see any kind of profitable gains one must play with at least 1000$

I'm in finances, I would in no way advise anyone to invest in to penny stocks they are a terrible idea!!
Id advise anyone to invest into something with good dividends and reinvest that like tobacco companies, banks, or electric companies.

https://www.thebalance.com/investing-in ... dea-357203

to give you an idea, if you invested 1000 into a stock TLSA in 2010 which opened at 19.20$ (not a penny stock) today you would have roughly 12k

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/if-you- ... e-now.html

That is what I would call a investment worth getting into.

Treadwell is not a person id consider a start up to "invest" into

if were saying Treadwell is a penny stock, again stay away!!

Your posts just keep getting worse. No one said to buy Treadwell for a 1st or even a 2nd. The fact remains that due to his draft capital he is still a better shot than most late round picks and udfa's as a dart throw and the news is that he has been getting more involved in the offense. People keep talking about Theilen, he may have been a udfa, but he had a much rougher start to his nfl career than Tread has. Some guys take longer to figure it out and mature. Tread is still just 22 and I can't think of many better shots at buying a player that has the potential to increase in value 10x. How about them apples for your finances.

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

Treadwell's dynasty value right now is about the same as Philip Dorsett's.

I'd rather have Dorsett to be honest. He has the same NFL draft capital, and there's a small chance that he'll play the deep threat role in NE with Cooks gone. Even if Treadwell climbs the depth chart, he's still the no. 5 target behind Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph, and Cook.

[Valhalla]

Treadwell's dynasty value right now is about the same as Philip Dorsett's.

I'd rather have Dorsett to be honest. He has the same NFL draft capital, and there's a small chance that he'll play the deep threat role in NE with Cooks gone. Even if Treadwell climbs the depth chart, he's still the no. 5 target behind Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph, and Cook.

One could respond to this that even if Dorsett climbs the depth chart, he's still behind Gronk, Hogan, Edelman, and Michel/Burkhead, at best. I'd argue he's almost definitely behind Matthews (definitely if healthy), probably behind Mitchell, probably behind White, and there's some sleeper talk around Berrios and McCarron...heck Kenny Britt could conceivably do more than Dorsett, and Dwayne Allen probably will too. If not for return specialist abilities, I really don't think Dorsett would have a shot at making the final roster. With Patterson there now competing for those return duties...I don't see Dorsett being a Patriot this year.

[joeya2001]

Equates to pointing at a penny stock that didn't take off, and yelling at the investor, "I told you that investment was a waste of time, you moron!" Meanwhile, the penny stock investor kicks back and relishes on the worthless Bitcoins he took a shot on.

I'm not a Treadwell backer, but the insults are a little absurd. You'll likely be in position to say "I told you so," but the investor knows that...as most 4th round rookies or free agents are likely to be a waste of time.

Val this is in no way of a insult, I actually like reading your posts.

With that said

If one is to invest into penny stocks, in order to see any kind of profitable gains one must play with at least 1000$

I'm in finances, I would in no way advise anyone to invest in to penny stocks they are a terrible idea!!
Id advise anyone to invest into something with good dividends and reinvest that like tobacco companies, banks, or electric companies.

https://www.thebalance.com/investing-in ... dea-357203

to give you an idea, if you invested 1000 into a stock TLSA in 2010 which opened at 19.20$ (not a penny stock) today you would have roughly 12k

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/01/if-you- ... e-now.html

That is what I would call a investment worth getting into.

Treadwell is not a person id consider a start up to "invest" into

if were saying Treadwell is a penny stock, again stay away!!

Your posts just keep getting worse. No one said to buy Treadwell for a 1st or even a 2nd. The fact remains that due to his draft capital he is still a better shot than most late round picks and udfa's as a dart throw and the news is that he has been getting more involved in the offense. People keep talking about Theilen, he may have been a udfa, but he had a much rougher start to his nfl career than Tread has. Some guys take longer to figure it out and mature. Tread is still just 22 and I can't think of many better shots at buying a player that has the potential to increase in value 10x. How about them apples for your finances.

Ok lets think hard about this

players who are young and can return value at a young age, but....im sure you will say "I like him better" blah blah, you make no sense blah blah. Fact is I'm posting facts and yet all I hear are insults and opinions, Let me ask why is he a better buy other than his draft pedigree? I still have not seen a valid answer other than value. no facts on his ability to play, no facts on hes rising in his system, no facts that he will catch more than 20 passes in a season.

Laquan is 2 years in to being a first round pick and has only 21 career catches!!! that's terrible for being a first round pick.

here are some better buys with players who have a legit shot to return dividens

Elijah McGwire
Corey Clement
Jalen Richards
Devontae Booker
Matt Berida

All those guys could be had very cheap and will be far more productive than Quan

so please try and put me down again. Please some facts this time.....

[joeya2001]

While this player did at least have yards his first two years, Davantee Adams, in 2016 his adp was 152, could be had in the 13th round of a startup, all because people gave up after two years.

Mark Ingram had a very low ADP before 2016 as well before he posted back to back 1000 yard seasons.

Not saying Treadwell is the next Adams, but he is still worth a flyer.

well there you have it to all that's reading, buy Treadwell....lol

I was reading through the last page and saw it came to insults and thought these conversations should never go there. Then I scrolled back to see why that was the case. I found this and can understand why some posters became frustrated with you. You asked for a few examples and they were provided. You then dismiss exactly what you asked for with your post. It seems you have an issue with applying knowledge provided to help form opinions. Regardless of the issue it should be everyones goal to grow and learn from each other instead of being dismissive and ignorant.

agreed and we shouldn't be teaching people to buy a bust when their are better options to take a shot on

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

Treadwell's dynasty value right now is about the same as Philip Dorsett's.

I'd rather have Dorsett to be honest. He has the same NFL draft capital, and there's a small chance that he'll play the deep threat role in NE with Cooks gone. Even if Treadwell climbs the depth chart, he's still the no. 5 target behind Diggs, Thielen, Rudolph, and Cook.

One could respond to this that even if Dorsett climbs the depth chart, he's still behind Gronk, Hogan, Edelman, and Michel/Burkhead, at best. I'd argue he's almost definitely behind Matthews (definitely if healthy), probably behind Mitchell, probably behind White, and there's some sleeper talk around Berrios and McCarron...heck Kenny Britt could conceivably do more than Dorsett, and Dwayne Allen probably will too. If not for return specialist abilities, I really don't think Dorsett would have a shot at making the final roster. With Patterson there now competing for those return duties...I don't see Dorsett being a Patriot this year.

True. I wouldn't pay a 4th for either Dorsett or Treadwell lol.

[smbkrypt24]

well there you have it to all that's reading, buy Treadwell....lol

I was reading through the last page and saw it came to insults and thought these conversations should never go there. Then I scrolled back to see why that was the case. I found this and can understand why some posters became frustrated with you. You asked for a few examples and they were provided. You then dismiss exactly what you asked for with your post. It seems you have an issue with applying knowledge provided to help form opinions. Regardless of the issue it should be everyones goal to grow and learn from each other instead of being dismissive and ignorant.

agreed and we shouldn't be teaching people to buy a bust when their are better options to take a shot on

And the beauty of that is that is your opinion not fact. So when there is a difference of opinion it's okay to disagree, but you must know that you don't know everything.

[joeya2001]

I was reading through the last page and saw it came to insults and thought these conversations should never go there. Then I scrolled back to see why that was the case. I found this and can understand why some posters became frustrated with you. You asked for a few examples and they were provided. You then dismiss exactly what you asked for with your post. It seems you have an issue with applying knowledge provided to help form opinions. Regardless of the issue it should be everyones goal to grow and learn from each other instead of being dismissive and ignorant.

agreed and we shouldn't be teaching people to buy a bust when their are better options to take a shot on

And the beauty of that is that is your opinion not fact. So when there is a difference of opinion it's okay to disagree, but you must know that you don't know everything.

and that's an opinion that I don't know everything