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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby Jason3123 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:53 am Probably an optimal landing spot but I am not a believer. Always sell your UDFA WR's while you can. Just traded my last share for pick 25 this week.
That seems very low to me. I would buy for the 2.01 and sell for a late first if I wanted to take the safe route and cash out. The guy is a baller.
He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:42 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:53 am Probably an optimal landing spot but I am not a believer. Always sell your UDFA WR's while you can. Just traded my last share for pick 25 this week.
That seems very low to me. I would buy for the 2.01 and sell for a late first if I wanted to take the safe route and cash out. The guy is a baller.
He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol
are you trying to say he isint worth a 1.32?
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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby thebeast » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:50 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 11:53 am Probably an optimal landing spot but I am not a believer. Always sell your UDFA WR's while you can. Just traded my last share for pick 25 this week.
That seems very low to me. I would buy for the 2.01 and sell for a late first if I wanted to take the safe route and cash out. The guy is a baller.
He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol
Clearly you didn’t watch him play and clearly you don’t know what your talking about if you think 66 catches and 888 yards with a 13.5 ypc is a few good games.

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby kadun2 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:55 pm

Agree this is a good sign for his health. Dude can play when he’s healthy. Add some Brees and BAM!

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby kamihamster » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:01 pm

The talent evaluators at the Saints are good lately. They hit on 2nd round guys like Thomas and Kamara, and even guys they brought in like Ginn have done reasonably well. Like others have said, this at least speaks to Meredith's health. But on top of that I think he can flourish with the Saints.
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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby dm1129 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:29 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:50 pm

That seems very low to me. I would buy for the 2.01 and sell for a late first if I wanted to take the safe route and cash out. The guy is a baller.
He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol
Clearly you didn’t watch him play and clearly you don’t know what your talking about if you think 66 catches and 888 yards with a 13.5 ypc is a few good games.
I agree with this completely. There is this notion amongst some posters here that UDFA WRs are all the same. The problem with this thinking is it ignores the fact that UDFA WRs who have produced on the field historically go on to have careers in the NFL. The actual problem with UDFAs is very few have the talent necessary to produce. In the case of Meredith, to dismiss him because he is a UDFA after what he has shown on the field is ridiculous. He has proven to be a very solid WR in the NFL and there was nothing fluky about his play. The biggest question mark is how well he returns from what was a gruesome knee injury.

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby Jason3123 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:31 pm

thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:50 pm

That seems very low to me. I would buy for the 2.01 and sell for a late first if I wanted to take the safe route and cash out. The guy is a baller.
He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol
Clearly you didn’t watch him play and clearly you don’t know what your talking about if you think 66 catches and 888 yards with a 13.5 ypc is a few good games.
I did watch him, he looked good. He also recorded 38 catches and 482 yards in 4 games. Even after he broke out in weeks 3 & 4 he then recorded 3 straight 1 catch games. He also really thrived out of the slot so hopefully that's where he lines up. But once again, undrafted wide receivers do not last. Keep chasing I guess.
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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby Phaded » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:33 pm

When was the last time a team got hit with 2 offer sheets?

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby thebeast » Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:41 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:31 pm
thebeast wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:50 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:30 pm

He had like 4-5 good games on a shitty team and then blew out his knee. Nothing baller about him. Also good luck selling for a First what hell type of leagues you playing in lol
Clearly you didn’t watch him play and clearly you don’t know what your talking about if you think 66 catches and 888 yards with a 13.5 ypc is a few good games.
I did watch him, he looked good. He also recorded 38 catches and 482 yards in 4 games. Even after he broke out in weeks 3 & 4 he then recorded 3 straight 1 catch games. He also really thrived out of the slot so hopefully that's where he lines up. But once again, undrafted wide receivers do not last. Keep chasing I guess.
What would Kevin Whites value be if that was his stat line that year with that qb play?

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby RightlegTucker » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:13 pm

kamihamster wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:01 pm The talent evaluators at the Saints are good lately. They hit on 2nd round guys like Thomas and Kamara, and even guys they brought in like Ginn have done reasonably well. Like others have said, this at least speaks to Meredith's health. But on top of that I think he can flourish with the Saints.
His former WR coach is there too, good sign if it happens.

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby cazzie33 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:26 pm

Could be a courtesy signing by ex-position coach. Or could be he's the new Brandon Coleman. He's worth a shot but not expecting any great shakes out of Meredith in either party town.

A. Rob and M. Thomas both cap his potential targets and both coaches feature the RB's

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby Nanananananana » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:39 pm

cazzie33 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:26 pm Could be a courtesy signing by ex-position coach. Or could be he's the new Brandon Coleman. He's worth a shot but not expecting any great shakes out of Meredith in either party town.

A. Rob and M. Thomas both cap his potential targets and both coaches feature the RB's
What? Because position coaches have the power to spend 10mil as a courtesy to players to help them out. :eh:

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby cazzie33 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:20 pm

Nanananananana wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:39 pm
cazzie33 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:26 pm Could be a courtesy signing by ex-position coach. Or could be he's the new Brandon Coleman. He's worth a shot but not expecting any great shakes out of Meredith in either party town.

A. Rob and M. Thomas both cap his potential targets and both coaches feature the RB's
What? Because position coaches have the power to spend 10mil as a courtesy to players to help them out. :eh:
I don't think anyone thinks that the WR coach does the signings, it was facetious. Most everyone connects Meredith to being the new Colston, I half jokingly referred him to being the new Coleman.

But seriously he's not in the same position as a lead receiver like when he was able to put up those stats from two years ago. I don't expect anything better than WR3 at best unless injuries to the lead receivers open up a bigger opportunity.

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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby joeya2001 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 6:35 am

cazzie33 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:20 pm
Nanananananana wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:39 pm
cazzie33 wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:26 pm Could be a courtesy signing by ex-position coach. Or could be he's the new Brandon Coleman. He's worth a shot but not expecting any great shakes out of Meredith in either party town.

A. Rob and M. Thomas both cap his potential targets and both coaches feature the RB's
What? Because position coaches have the power to spend 10mil as a courtesy to players to help them out. :eh:
I don't think anyone thinks that the WR coach does the signings, it was facetious. Most everyone connects Meredith to being the new Colston, I half jokingly referred him to being the new Coleman.

But seriously he's not in the same position as a lead receiver like when he was able to put up those stats from two years ago. I don't expect anything better than WR3 at best unless injuries to the lead receivers open up a bigger opportunity.

Well for a guy that was practically free, a WR 3 with 2/1 upside for a player that most got for free is fantastic!
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Re: Camron Meredith to Saints

Postby cazzie33 » Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:14 am

Depends on when you acquired him. And if you are counting on him to be a solid WR3 or more. By " most got for free" you'd have to have large rosters to have held him without making a tough decision whether to roster him or IR slot to stash him. Many leagues do not have those options.

Colston was a solid number two with occasional wr1 stretches or seasons. Reliable for years. Plenty of reliable targets. Meredith had that for most of a season in Chicago and was in early drafts the next year taken as the Bears WR1. Then the gruesome injury :sick:

Good question would be if he was available in the rookie draft where would you place him ? Would you value him much more...in NO or Chi ?

If you drafted him early in a dynasty last year and held him all this time he wasn't really free. (Hopefully your lg has an IR designation where you stashed him ) Our league guys like him are in the rookie pool ( Marshawn was last year ) as the rosters get frozen @ seasons end. Unless you grabbed him late off waivers if he was dropped after preseason injury put him out for the year you will have to spend a draft pick this year. Ergo, Not Free !

As a Wr3 in my estimation we wouldn't be selecting him until mid-late 2nd rd in either situation. Perhaps after seeing him throughout camp if he looked like a solid wr2 ( think Marvin Jones Jr if in NO , more Mohammed Sanu if in Chi ) then maybe he'd move up to late first / early second rd status as I don't value this rookie crop of WR's as locks to be any better than Meredith if he can prove himself 100% or close to it. I don't expect Cameron will be the same player after that severe of an injury.


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