Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

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Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Phaded » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:00 pm

So one of the things I always like to do every year is figure out talented rookies who may fall in the NFL draft as a result of either an injury in the year prior to declaring or due to character issues.

However - this year, at least at this point; I'm having a hard time identifying these guys.

Does anyone have any ideas on guys who might fit this bill?

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Bot101 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:04 pm

Callaway
Walton

Those are the two that stand out in my mind. Walton should fire whoever told him to try performing at the combine while clearly not close to 100%.

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Jason3123 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:12 pm

Looking at ADP..

ADP 15. RB John Kelly. He will easily be a day 3 or undrafted and will eventually become a late 3rd/4th round rookie pick.
ADP 7. RB Rashaad Penny. Won't surprise me when he's a round 4 or 5 selection because of his smaller school status.
QB's. I think one of the 5 QB's will fall pretty far. Probably Josh Allen.

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:36 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:12 pm Looking at ADP..

ADP 15. RB John Kelly. He will easily be a day 3 or undrafted and will eventually become a late 3rd/4th round rookie pick.
ADP 7. RB Rashaad Penny. Won't surprise me when he's a round 4 or 5 selection because of his smaller school status.
QB's. I think one of the 5 QB's will fall pretty far. Probably Josh Allen.
Totally agree. Not sure why his ADP is where it is right now. He is an abysmal athlete, in NFL terms. Whoever drafts him is basically throwing a pick into the garbage. There is literally nothing that makes this guy an NFL caliber back, unless people get caught up in film analysis.
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Rosenbluu » Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:37 pm

Seems like a lot of people don’t like Deon Cain... I think he has just as much upside as any WR in this class, good size/speed, good YAC. If he puts it all together and stops being a head case. An NFL comparison would be someone like Roddy White
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:09 pm

Scarborough & Ballage go late day 3. Scarborough for sure. Josh Adams won't get drafted. Auden Tate doesn't get drafted either. Gesicki might go round 3.
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby nathanq42 » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:04 pm

People get cold feet about Ridley or Sutton and they fall to the end of the first.
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:19 am

All the WRs will fall, Sutton, Ridley, Washington, DJ Moore, will all be half a round or later picked than where they should be

Jones II is an RB I already see falling. He was right there in the tier behind Guice with Michel at the head of it. Well Chubb performed well at the combine and Jones pulled a hammy, and now suddenly he's falling to RB6 or 7 in people's top 12. If he slides in the NFL draft, I could see people continuingly pass on him to grab an RB that landed in a good spot despite not as much talent

Oops. Misread the OP

In the NFL draft, with the number of quality starting ready NFL backs, I see them all sliding back as a supply/demand issue. Guys that should go early 2nd round or before, like Cook or Mixon last year, will be taken for a value in the 3rd
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Phaded » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:04 am

Some interesting names thrown around here, thanks guys.

What about character issue guys? People like Tyreek Hill or Dede Westbrook from recent years, for example. I tried to dig up to see if any rookies have those concerns but I do not see any.

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby dynastyninja » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:27 am

One of Guice/Chubb/Michel/Jones will probably fall more than expected, which will result in us re-ranking one of them to late 1st. My money is on Michel or Jones.

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:29 am

Phaded wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:04 am Some interesting names thrown around here, thanks guys.

What about character issue guys? People like Tyreek Hill or Dede Westbrook from recent years, for example. I tried to dig up to see if any rookies have those concerns but I do not see any.
Callaway has quite the history. Will probably be a round 4/5 guy.

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby kamihamster » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:33 am

Character issue guys:
Jordan Lasley
Josh Adams
Antonio Callaway

Injured:
Richie James
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby spotxc » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:37 am

I think Ronald Jones falls because of his injury in the offseason and the inability to provide good workout numbers or catch passes

Also Rashaad Penny because of his small school

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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby gameaholica » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:55 am

Obvious.. but Baker Mayfield? Character issues, compared to Manziel. Fins supposedly like him, but will he slide?
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Re: Notable 2018 Rookies who could fall

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:07 am

gameaholica wrote: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:55 am Obvious.. but Baker Mayfield? Character issues, compared to Manziel. Fins supposedly like him, but will he slide?
Fake news.


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