Draft pick issue

[Bad News Barrett]

Here’s a problem

So the commish of the league kind of messed up the draft picks last year, so the 2017 draft picks were somehow listed twice, and the 2018 draft picks once

One set of 2017 picks were used during the draft. Ok. Not a huge deal, don’t use the second set of 2017 picks. It’ll fix itself next year

Well, sure enough, someone traded a 2017 1st AND a 2018 1st (The 2017 1st, in this case, for all intents and purposes is considered the 2018 1st)

It is just noticed, and the commish isn’t sure what to do

Obviously the trades that happened affected the outcome of 2017, and now at least one of the trades needs to be reversed

Granted, this is a full league problem as even I didn’t notice (and I’m involved with the second trade, receiving the true 2018 1st)

What is the best solution here?

[Pullo Vision]

Need some clarity here- "someone traded a 2017 1st AND a 2018 1st (The 2017 1st, in this case, for all intents and purposes is considered the 2018 1st)". What do you mean the 2017 1st was "considered" the 2028 1st? Not the same year, so the conclusion seems very... odd.

Was this trade done before or after the 2017 draft? Were there other trades involving the false 2017 picks?

Half-assed idea- allow the team who trade the false 2017 1st to try to buy another 2018 1st, then send that instead of the 2017 one. So, the receiving team would get 2 2018 1sts.

[Bad News Barrett]

Yeah. The 2017 1st was after the rookie draft. Somehow, the MFL site got screwed up and the picks were listed twice. Not sure how it happened, but it was addressed

The 2017 1st should not have existed, basically

I like that idea, make the person buy another 2018 1st from another owner

The only other option would be to nullify one of the trades, and I think in all fairness, it should be the second trade (which involves me and was a great trade for me, but I’m ok to reverse it to preserve the league)

[sugbear65]

Make the 2018 1st he sold his 2019 1st instead is the closest I can see as a solution. Retroactively nulling a trade that happened already, and in season I believe u said, is definitely not the answer. Especially if it was in season. But really this should have been noticed sooner, I hope your commish uses this as learning experience and stays on his toes.

[Bad News Barrett]

Make the 2018 1st he sold his 2019 1st instead is the closest I can see as a solution. Retroactively nulling a trade that happened already, and in season I believe u said, is definitely not the answer. Especially if it was in season. But really this should have been noticed sooner, I hope your commish uses this as learning experience and stays on his toes.

2019 he also traded. I don’t think a 2020 1st will be the same as 1.02 this year. We have a while to figure it out

[Dynasty DeLorean]

So the 2017 draft picks were used and then somehow someone traded for a 2017 draft pick that could never be used because the rookie draft already happened. Am I clear on that?

[nathanq42]

Someone traded a 2017 first away after your 2017 draft? I guess if there is no pick to be traded the two parties can back out and try to get a new deal

[Bad News Barrett]

Someone traded a 2017 first away after your 2017 draft? I guess if there is no pick to be traded the two parties can back out and try to get a new deal

Ok I’ll try to make it cas clear as I can

We drafted the rookies offline, but the commish didn’t delete the 2017 picks for one reason or another

So the 2017 picks should not have existed

The owner traded a 2017 1st by mistake, meaning to trade his 2018

However, he also traded his 2018 1st

So in essence, the 2017 pick he traded was MEANT to be be his 2018 pick

His 2018 pick was also used, so he traded an additional first round pick that he did not have

We’ve pretty much figured out, as bad as it is, the only solution is to reverse the second trade.

[Hottoddies]

The team that traded away the 2017 1st, 2018 1st, and 2019 1st is either an idiot or acted in bad faith. Considering that he traded away 3 1st and still managed to finish 2nd to last, I'm going to guess the former. Your trade for the 2018 1st was legit and should stand. However the duplicate 2017 draft picks should not have been used therefor that trade should be reversed. The team that received the 2017 1st should have questioned the trade at the time but might be owed some compensation from the idiot who traded him a nonexistent draft pick.

[Hottoddies]

Someone traded a 2017 first away after your 2017 draft? I guess if there is no pick to be traded the two parties can back out and try to get a new deal

Ok I’ll try to make it cas clear as I can

We drafted the rookies offline, but the commish didn’t delete the 2017 picks for one reason or another

So the 2017 picks should not have existed

The owner traded a 2017 1st by mistake, meaning to trade his 2018

However, he also traded his 2018 1st

So in essence, the 2017 pick he traded was MEANT to be be his 2018 pick

His 2018 pick was also used, so he traded an additional first round pick that he did not have

We’ve pretty much figured out, as bad as it is, the only solution is to reverse the second trade.

I think you're taking the fall for something that is not your fault. Of the 3 parties, you are the least to blame.

[keebs3]

Your trade for the 2018 1st was legit and should stand. However the duplicate 2017 draft picks should not have been used therefor that trade should be reversed. The team that received the 2017 1st should have questioned the trade at the time but might be owed some compensation from the idiot who traded him a nonexistent draft pick.

This is the closest to a solution involving the two parties who should have noticed it first. Reverse the trade that involved a fake pick. The only other option I can see is to give the owner that received the fake 2017 1st an "extra" 1st in 2018. Have him select a player in the ordered it would have been, had it been real. Then, just don't allow anyone else to draft that player. It obviously hurts anyone who picks after him from taking that player, but it's the only other option I see.

[Bad News Barrett]

So it gets even deeper

The guy traded me his 2018 2nd, and then again traded his fake 2017 2nd

I think the trade with the 2017 picks needs to be voided, as it was the only trade that used non-existent picks

Because if not, then two of my trades would need to be voided, which I’m not cool with

It’s at a point if the commish makes the wrong call, I’m bailing from the league

[Pullo Vision]

So it gets even deeper

The guy traded me his 2018 2nd, and then again traded his fake 2017 2nd

I think the trade with the 2017 picks needs to be voided, as it was the only trade that used non-existent picks

Because if not, then two of my trades would need to be voided, which I’m not cool with

It’s at a point if the commish makes the wrong call, I’m bailing from the league

Voiding the trade entirely is an option, but not a fan of it.

Perhaps give the team that bought the fake 2017 picks 2018 picks at the end of the designated rounds? Not ideal, can't see a fair ideal option, but it gets the team that bought the picks something without nullifying the trade entirely. Nullification is an option as well, just a more bad one.

Both trade partners should have noticed- this issue isn't just the fault of the player who traded the pick after drafting, or the commish who allowed it to go through.

[whodunnit]

I may be alone here, but there's too many moving pieces to try and correct it. I say just move forward as is. I'm confused how the draft had already been done and not a single person in the league noticed that 2017 picks were being traded around. From what I can see, it's either void all trades (very hard to do) or just continue as is (still not fair to those who thought they were getting more value), I just find it hard to believe not one person saw this happening.

[nathanq42]

Yeah idk how this slips everyone's eyes.. unfortunate situation, I doubt there is a solution everyone will be happy with..