START-UP guy has gone radio silent, how to handle

[jaykay22]

Yeah, this is a silly thread. I just finished a startup, one where I was taking 5-7 hours per pick for the first 3-4 rounds due to literally having some unpredictable work shifts where my access to my phone was limited for 2-3 shifts straight (I'm a pharmacist, I'm constantly interacting with patients and checking prescriptions). Mind you this draft started in late FEBRUARY. The resident obnoxious manchild of the league was getting his panties in a bunch cause I was slowing down the draft and not answering his GroupMe PM's and email offers...despite still making my picks within the allotted window and trying to communicate any potential slowdown on my part to the rest of the guys in advance. He was getting upset to the point of using slurs. Thankfully said resident manchild decided to leave the league immediately once he drafted his team, so all is good.

Some people needs hobbies (outside of ff).

[snaps06]

I personally feel like the 12 hour clock is a courtesy to allow for life to occur, with the understanding that owners shouldn’t be default use all 12 hours on each pick. I get that they are entitled to it, but I thought this was an understood item. If you can’t make the pick, it is ideal for at least acknowledgement, either that pick or at the outset, that you will need extra time due to X. Frankly, if every owner took the 12 hours I wouldn’t even want to participate in a startup.

Then don't join a league that has a 12 hour clock on picks. Awfully simple.

Acknowledgement of lengthy time for a pick is neither required nor should it be expected. As long as the owner is following the rules and is making his/her picks within the predetermined time frame, then there is zero issue.

[Mephistopheles]

OP has gone radio silent. What gives?

Can we vote to remove the OP from the forum?

Has he been radio silent for the allotted 12 hours?

[Bad News Barrett]

OP has gone radio silent. What gives?

Can we vote to remove the OP from the forum?

Has he been radio silent for the allotted 12 hours?

Longer for sure. It would be nice if he at least told us why he hasn’t posted in this thread in a while

[Pullo Vision]

I just want the now 11 people who voted to boot to out themselves.

There are interview questions when applying for jobs and residences. Seems like this question/issue would be a good litmus test for prospective owners/leagues.

[millworkguy]

I held a league hostage last year refusing to pick after the commish manually changed k Mack from LB to DE after picking him in the 6th round of a start-up. Ended up in 3rd, got my money back and not returning...

[Bad News Barrett]

I held a league hostage last year refusing to pick after the commish manually changed k Mack from LB to DE after picking him in the 6th round of a start-up. Ended up in 3rd, got my money back and not returning...

Must have gotten the idea from Coogan

[FiremanEd]

I personally feel like the 12 hour clock is a courtesy to allow for life to occur, with the understanding that owners shouldn’t be default use all 12 hours on each pick. I get that they are entitled to it, but I thought this was an understood item. If you can’t make the pick, it is ideal for at least acknowledgement, either that pick or at the outset, that you will need extra time due to X. Frankly, if every owner took the 12 hours I wouldn’t even want to participate in a startup.

Then don't join a league that has a 12 hour clock on picks. Awfully simple.

That’s an oversimplification and I’m not sure you fully understood my post. As mentioned, the 12 hours allows life to occur. A two hour clock is going to cause issues because inevitably people will have times they simply can’t get to the phone. The 12 hours is a standard convenience time for selections. Sure it gives you that as your timeframe without being outside the ‘rules’, but it is provided to allow for life, not intended to be for every user to use 11 hours and 59 minutes every time. If everyone would I guarantee the league would not be enjoyable, as the draft drags on and on and on and on...

As mentioned, it isn’t against the rules, it isn’t an ‘issue’ in small scope, but people posting seem to be looking past the common understanding that 12 hours is available, but that users should generally be picking in less than that when able. I agree that no rule changes, booting, etc. is applicable here, but simply stating the generally unspoken understanding that allows drafts to move forward and actually be completed.

[Bad News Barrett]

I personally feel like the 12 hour clock is a courtesy to allow for life to occur, with the understanding that owners shouldn’t be default use all 12 hours on each pick. I get that they are entitled to it, but I thought this was an understood item. If you can’t make the pick, it is ideal for at least acknowledgement, either that pick or at the outset, that you will need extra time due to X. Frankly, if every owner took the 12 hours I wouldn’t even want to participate in a startup.

Then don't join a league that has a 12 hour clock on picks. Awfully simple.

That’s an oversimplification and I’m not sure you fully understood my post. As mentioned, the 12 hours allows life to occur. A two hour clock is going to cause issues because inevitably people will have times they simply can’t get to the phone. The 12 hours is a standard convenience time for selections. Sure it gives you that as your timeframe without being outside the ‘rules’, but it is provided to allow for life, not intended to be for every user to use 11 hours and 59 minutes every time. If everyone would I guarantee the league would not be enjoyable, as the draft drags on and on and on and on...

As mentioned, it isn’t against the rules, it isn’t an ‘issue’ in small scope, but people posting seem to be looking past the common understanding that 12 hours is available, but that users should generally be picking in less than that when able. I agree that no rule changes, booting, etc. is applicable here, but simply stating the generally unspoken understanding that allows drafts to move forward and actually be completed.

I agree with Ed, which is difficult to do, as he’s a Jets fan

Pre-draft is available if you know you won’t be around. I don’t pre-draft early picks, but later rounds you can easily narrow down who you will pick next and pre-draft

But it’s nothing worth kicking a guy out. And clearly you guys pissed him off and deserve the wait now.

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That’s an oversimplification and I’m not sure you fully understood my post. As mentioned, the 12 hours allows life to occur. A two hour clock is going to cause issues because inevitably people will have times they simply can’t get to the phone. The 12 hours is a standard convenience time for selections. Sure it gives you that as your timeframe without being outside the ‘rules’, but it is provided to allow for life, not intended to be for every user to use 11 hours and 59 minutes every time. If everyone would I guarantee the league would not be enjoyable, as the draft drags on and on and on and on...

As mentioned, it isn’t against the rules, it isn’t an ‘issue’ in small scope, but people posting seem to be looking past the common understanding that 12 hours is available, but that users should generally be picking in less than that when able. I agree that no rule changes, booting, etc. is applicable here, but simply stating the generally unspoken understanding that allows drafts to move forward and actually be completed.

I wish that all owners had this perspective. Unfortunately, I've been in leagues where there are owners who believe in using every minute of that clock. Not necessarily on every pick but for many of them. In challenging them to be more courteous they would argue the hard line position that they had 12 hours (or whatever the time frame was) and they were going to use it.

I think pretty much everyone agrees (besides the 12 who have no clue what they are doing) that the owner is operating within the rules of the league and this is nothing more than a commissioner and leaguemates being overly anxious.

[ArrylT]

Curious to hear an update from OP on how the draft is progressing.

[Bad News Barrett]

Curious to hear an update from OP on how the draft is progressing.

He’s gone radio silent

[smbkrypt24]

I think you shouldn't do anything about it. I agree it is pretty obnoxious for someone to take 12 hours every time, but the time allowed is set to 12 hours for a reason...which is that every player gets 12 hours to pick. Like you already did I would reach out to him and make sure he knows he is in the middle of a fantasy football draft, but again he holds no responsibility to respond to anything or give a reason for why he is using the whole clock. I have played in a few leagues that where someone enjoyed using the whole clock and it really dragged down the draft experience, but we just sucked it up and got through it.

[pierson242]

I held a league hostage last year refusing to pick after the commish manually changed k Mack from LB to DE after picking him in the 6th round of a start-up. Ended up in 3rd, got my money back and not returning...

Must have gotten the idea from Coogan

I just spit my coffee out lol

So basically...

You started a league with said rules

League fills and a guy comminicates and follows said rules (yes him picking with 6 minutes to go is him not auto pick)

You now want to remove him and change said rules??

I dont get this at all but this wouldnt fly with me. I love to pick as much as the next guy but at the same time you have to respect peoples lives. I suspect we dont hear from the OP anymore but for anyone else reading, a league where the commish wants to change rules because people dont like them is a bad league plain and simple.

[Dookmarriot]

Can we vote to remove the OP from the forum?

Has he been radio silent for the allotted 12 hours?

Longer for sure. It would be nice if he at least told us why he hasn’t posted in this thread in a while

Very well played, gentlemen.

I was in one league where one member - the Commish, if I remember correctly - would use almost the full alloted time, and would then hector everyone else to hurry up. The lack of self-awareness was impressive!