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Impact of new catch rule.

Postby austing » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:16 pm

Just saw a clip laying out the new catch rule as only needing a third step or to extend for the los to establish control. I'm wondering if there are any particular group or subgroup of players who benefit more than others from this change, aside from defenses getting more fumbles.

Do the the red zone receivers benefit the more than others from those tds now getting converted instead of called dead? Or will 3rd down backs and high reception guys get a comparatively bigger bump in ppr from the extra catches they will get credit for?
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:29 pm

I know I'm in the minority, but I actually liked the previous catch rule. It made sense and was, in my mind, a reasonable interpretation of a tough thing to gauge. My problem was more with the execution when a play was challenged and how calls could be changed without irrefutable evidence.

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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:29 pm

Also, Dez didn't catch it

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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby Pac_Eddy » Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:40 am

With only the above explanation, sounds like a good change to me. Much like a runner can allow the ball to be moving without necessarily fumbling, there are times a WR can have enough control of a catch to be making a move with the ball to extend it forward before all the other previously necessary steps had been established.

And yeah, Dez caught it. So did Calvin Johnson.

I think this will add a few receiving TDs per year in the league, but not enough to change any rankings or values of players.

Now, if those are considered catches in the new interpretation, does losing the ball when reaching for additional yardage make it a fumble if the receiver has been contacted by a defender?
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:40 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:40 amI think this will add a few receiving TDs per year in the league, but not enough to change any rankings or values of players.
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Postby GridironGuerilla » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:18 am

dynastyninja wrote: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:29 pm Also, Dez didn't catch it

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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby kamihamster » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:31 am

Adding three steps is nice because that is actually a rule. I wish they added something like the ball can't hit the ground. They've been making rules benefiting the catchers for safety reasons, and I get it. They should make things harder for them with a rule like that so that QBs would have to throw it higher so the catcher won't have to go to the ground. It would probably lead to more interceptions and make the game more entertaining. And it takes away the interpretation of having control... if it never hits the ground then you obviously controlled it.
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby Tvols » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:49 am

wonder abot sideline catches? still have control through the ground?

And yes Dez caught the ball..
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby thebeast » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:54 am

Eh. Minimal to no impact. How many calls really came into question last year? I don’t think it changes anyone’s value higher or lower.

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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby JJRules » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:26 am

I think it's stupid that this level of detail is required to determine whether or not something qualifies as a catch.
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:30 am

I'm telling you guys, my 1 second rule will catch on eventually :pray:

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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby James McGhee » Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:30 am

JJRules wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:26 am I think it's stupid that this level of detail is required to determine whether or not something qualifies as a catch.
Seriously. How did the NFL even get by for what...50 years?!...before the catch rule became the center of the universe?!
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Re: Impact of new catch rule.

Postby austing » Sun Mar 25, 2018 12:07 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:40 am With only the above explanation, sounds like a good change to me. Much like a runner can allow the ball to be moving without necessarily fumbling, there are times a WR can have enough control of a catch to be making a move with the ball to extend it forward before all the other previously necessary steps had been established.

And yeah, Dez caught it. So did Calvin Johnson.

I think this will add a few receiving TDs per year in the league, but not enough to change any rankings or values of players.

Now, if those are considered catches in the new interpretation, does losing the ball when reaching for additional yardage make it a fumble if the receiver has been contacted by a defender?
I side with your take on this I think. While it not be a significant impact in fantasy, I think it may have more than the negligible effect others are claiming, even though predicting where that impact will be seems nearly impossible.

And from my understanding, yes the rule change will lead to those previously incompletes into becoming fumbles now. Team defenses should have more of an impact with the incompletions becoming live balls.
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