Crabtree landing spot

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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby TheRookiePro » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:42 am

Made two trades yesterday:
First, I acquired Fitz for 2.10, and a 2020 3rd.
Second, I acquired a 2019 2nd round pick for Crabtree.

I'm very happy. I picked up Crabtree off waivers after the Raiders signed him 3 years ago. He was a fantastic add. But I'm not feeling this move to Baltimore. I may be wrong, but it just seems like there is a new blackjack dealer at the table and now is the time to walk away and cash out.
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RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:23 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:06 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:59 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:28 pm I agree with this. Seems reasonable
Agree this is easily in he range of outcomes and would've been a top 12 ppr season last year... worst case he's a volume driven, low end fantasy wr2/high end wr3.
And though his ceiling may not be super high, a guy like Crabtree is VERY nice to own in leagues with deep starting requirements. Give me a WR3 who is almost a lock for 5-60 every week, with a TD once every couple weeks, that is wonderful.
I'm in total agreement with you Lucky. He ought to see 100-120 targets. Even if he has a mediocre year like he did in SF with that targetshare, 73/880/4, that equates to the ppr wr22 in 2017.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:23 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:06 am
Orenthal Shames wrote: Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:59 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:28 pm I agree with this. Seems reasonable
Agree this is easily in he range of outcomes and would've been a top 12 ppr season last year... worst case he's a volume driven, low end fantasy wr2/high end wr3.
And though his ceiling may not be super high, a guy like Crabtree is VERY nice to own in leagues with deep starting requirements. Give me a WR3 who is almost a lock for 5-60 every week, with a TD once every couple weeks, that is wonderful.
I'm in total agreement with you Lucky. He ought to see 100-120 targets. Even if he has a mediocre year like he did in SF with that targetshare, 73/880/4, that equates to the ppr wr22 in 2017.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14

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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby Oddball456 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:35 am

azthecrow wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:28 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:29 pm No reason why he can't get 75-850-8
I agree with this. Seems reasonable
I felt the same way about Maclin on the Ravens...

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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:34 am

Oddball456 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:35 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:28 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:29 pm No reason why he can't get 75-850-8
I agree with this. Seems reasonable
I felt the same way about Maclin on the Ravens...
Haha I know, I did too
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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby ArrylT » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:51 am

Yeah we already saw what mediocre for Crabtree would be with his 2017. His mediocre in Baltimore in 2018 could be Maclin 2017.

His ceiling is likely 2015 Aiken, 2016 Wallace or if you're really lucky 2014 Steve Smith. But thats ceiling and not locked in guarantee. Either way thats low to mid to high end WR2.

It all depends on the price point you're buying or selling, and where your team is. If you're a contender with a late 2nd and a need for depth at WR - seems like it could be a buy. But if you're in a rebuild situation with Crabtree as your WR3 then selling for even a 3rd could be viable for that owner.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:25 am

100%. Totally dependant on team status. As a contender, when I floated him out there I couldn't sniff anything close to a second. For a 3rd, I'll opt to keep the depth production.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs

QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14

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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:32 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:34 am
Oddball456 wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:35 am
azthecrow wrote: Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:28 pm I agree with this. Seems reasonable
I felt the same way about Maclin on the Ravens...
Haha I know, I did too
I like that you own it lukky, :thumbup: And Oddball as well. Though lukky was putting in a shift here and there driving the Maclin fan bus.
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QB: L. Jackson, B. Purdy, T. Lance
RB: J. Mixon, N. Chubb, A. Dillon, J. Cook, K. Mitchell, J. McLaughlin, Z. Evans
WR: J. Chase, C. Godwin, D. Johnson, J. Reed, C. Tillman
TE: TJ Hockenson, D. Njoku, B. Jordan

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QB: L. Jackson, T. Tagovailoa
RB: B. Robinson, K. Walker, R. Stevenson, K. Herbertl
WR: C. Olave, T. Higgins, B. Aiyuk, N. Collins, Z. Flowers, M. Mims
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Re: Crabtree landing spot

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Jun 01, 2018 1:36 pm

ArrylT wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:51 am Yeah we already saw what mediocre for Crabtree would be with his 2017. His mediocre in Baltimore in 2018 could be Maclin 2017.

His ceiling is likely 2015 Aiken, 2016 Wallace or if you're really lucky 2014 Steve Smith. But thats ceiling and not locked in guarantee. Either way thats low to mid to high end WR2.

It all depends on the price point you're buying or selling, and where your team is. If you're a contender with a late 2nd and a need for depth at WR - seems like it could be a buy. But if you're in a rebuild situation with Crabtree as your WR3 then selling for even a 3rd could be viable for that owner.
This. I brought up Crabtree in a separate thread and I still advocate for all owners to SELL. Take advantage of teams who will lose WR/FLEX to injuries or suspensions because once the season starts his stock will plummet.
10 Team PPR, 25 man roster(1st and 2nd year player PS option for $20), QB, 2 RB, 3WR, TE, FLEX (RB,WR,TE), K, DEF.

QB-Luck, A. Smith, Fitzpatrick
RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
WR-K. Allen, T. Hill, Josh Gordon, Golladay, Fitzgerald, S. Watkins, J. Reynolds, Enunwa,
TE-Burton, Ebron, Walker
K-Gostkowski
Defense-Vikings, Jaguars, Ravens


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