Jerick McKinnon Thread
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
As a McKinnon owner who got him for nothing off the waiver wire in preseason, it would definitely take something substantial to pry him away from me now. Picks likely wouldnt do the trick unless they were high firsts, just because I'd rather hold on to him and see what I've got.
But that remains the question. With bsome big bye weeks coming up, I'm hesitant to bring him off my PS and throw him into action, because I just don't know what we'll see going forward. Is he the back of the future in Minny? Or is he a timeshare/COP type player who will be paired with a high pick rookie in next years draft (worse even, GURLEY). Still, he was drafted in the 3rd rd, so he wasn't exactly a flier.
I think this may be a difference in the Michael/McKinnon debate. Michael's has done less yeah, but the general consensus around the forums (at least it seems so) is that Michael has the look of a player with bellcow upside. I love McKinnon, and not saying he couldn't, or that he wouldn't be equally as effective in a timeshare, but I don't think anyone is ready to say he's got a future as a bellcow. I dunno though, love to see them try it!
But that remains the question. With bsome big bye weeks coming up, I'm hesitant to bring him off my PS and throw him into action, because I just don't know what we'll see going forward. Is he the back of the future in Minny? Or is he a timeshare/COP type player who will be paired with a high pick rookie in next years draft (worse even, GURLEY). Still, he was drafted in the 3rd rd, so he wasn't exactly a flier.
I think this may be a difference in the Michael/McKinnon debate. Michael's has done less yeah, but the general consensus around the forums (at least it seems so) is that Michael has the look of a player with bellcow upside. I love McKinnon, and not saying he couldn't, or that he wouldn't be equally as effective in a timeshare, but I don't think anyone is ready to say he's got a future as a bellcow. I dunno though, love to see them try it!
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I would guess its going to be another one of those situations where pompous owners turn down late 1sts and early seconds and then post "I won't even consider anything less than and early 1st for him." And just like it did with Khiry, the buzz will wear off and people will feel stupid for not selling high.henry1jg wrote:Ouch.Steveeb wrote:Injuries and a lack of an IR spot forced me to drop him last week. This hurts. At least I dropped him hours before kickoff so no one could claim him.. maybe I can get him on waivers..
I offered a 3rd rd pick for him two wks ago and was laughed at. It would probably cost me an unreal amount now. I have two 2nds that are on track to be 2.04 or better, I should've just given him one of those then. I would love to hear what some are going to want for him now.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I'm not saying anyone should sell high or anything like that. I am just interested in hearing what others think of McKinnon. I have him in one dynasty, but it's admittedly a league that I do not devote a ton of time to and a league that I don't lose sleep over after a loss. Having said that, I feel like I am able to be more realistic about player value and it cuts down on me seeing the world through rose tinted goggles. In that league, which is a 12 team, PPR, IDP league, I would want a starter at another position. I'm tired of dealing for picks. I want a guy that will slot into my lineup, most specifically on defense. If I could land a top 20 LB, or a top 10 SS, I'd pounce. If I could only get a pick, I would tell that owner that I want about another 4-6 games worth of data before dealing him. If I was offered a late 1st, I would likely pounce due to my RB depth. But I am also the type of person that usually trades away picks in leagues that do not have a salary cap.
So McKinnon owner, what's your scoring system and what do I have to give you to land McKinnon?
So McKinnon owner, what's your scoring system and what do I have to give you to land McKinnon?
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I'm in a 10-team league, and I might have taken a second-round pick for him last week. This week? I'm probably asking for a late first-round pick. I know it was just Atlanta, but he had a couple of splash plays that really opened my eyes. Could he be sort of a Ellington type?henry1jg wrote:I'm not saying anyone should sell high or anything like that. I am just interested in hearing what others think of McKinnon. I have him in one dynasty, but it's admittedly a league that I do not devote a ton of time to and a league that I don't lose sleep over after a loss. Having said that, I feel like I am able to be more realistic about player value and it cuts down on me seeing the world through rose tinted goggles. In that league, which is a 12 team, PPR, IDP league, I would want a starter at another position. I'm tired of dealing for picks. I want a guy that will slot into my lineup, most specifically on defense. If I could land a top 20 LB, or a top 10 SS, I'd pounce. If I could only get a pick, I would tell that owner that I want about another 4-6 games worth of data before dealing him. If I was offered a late 1st, I would likely pounce due to my RB depth. But I am also the type of person that usually trades away picks in leagues that do not have a salary cap.
So McKinnon owner, what's your scoring system and what do I have to give you to land McKinnon?
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
RB's are devalued in my league so a late 1st and he'd be gone. I'd probably hold him for a second although i do think I'd regret it:henry1jg wrote:So McKinnon owner, what's your scoring system and what do I have to give you to land McKinnon?
1QB, 1QB/RB/WR/TE, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE
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10 Team Superflex, Pass Heavy Scoring
1QB, 1QB/RB/WR/TE, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Def, 1K
Passing: 2pt/20yds 5pt/TD; Rushing/Receiving: 2pt/10yds; 1PPR
QB's: ARod, Rivers, Sanchez, Manziel, Mallett, Mettenberger
RB's: Charles, Lacy, Ellington, Oliver, Davis, Starks, CMike
WR's: Julio, Maclin, Sanders, Watkins, Crabtree, Patterson, Quick
TE's: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
10 Team Superflex, Pass Heavy Scoring
1QB, 1QB/RB/WR/TE, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Def, 1K
Passing: 2pt/20yds 5pt/TD; Rushing/Receiving: 2pt/10yds; 1PPR
QB's: ARod, Rivers, Sanchez, Manziel, Mallett, Mettenberger
RB's: Charles, Lacy, Ellington, Oliver, Davis, Starks, CMike
WR's: Julio, Maclin, Sanders, Watkins, Crabtree, Patterson, Quick
TE's: Graham, Kelce, ASJ
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I tend to hold onto young players (sometimes to my detriment) as it's always in the back of my mind i could be trading a young stud.henry1jg wrote:I'm not saying anyone should sell high or anything like that. I am just interested in hearing what others think of McKinnon. I have him in one dynasty, but it's admittedly a league that I do not devote a ton of time to and a league that I don't lose sleep over after a loss. Having said that, I feel like I am able to be more realistic about player value and it cuts down on me seeing the world through rose tinted goggles. In that league, which is a 12 team, PPR, IDP league, I would want a starter at another position. I'm tired of dealing for picks. I want a guy that will slot into my lineup, most specifically on defense. If I could land a top 20 LB, or a top 10 SS, I'd pounce. If I could only get a pick, I would tell that owner that I want about another 4-6 games worth of data before dealing him. If I was offered a late 1st, I would likely pounce due to my RB depth. But I am also the type of person that usually trades away picks in leagues that do not have a salary cap.
So McKinnon owner, what's your scoring system and what do I have to give you to land McKinnon?
Would take a 1st for me to trade McKinnon and/or a starter than has atleast a few years left. I have him in atleast a half dozen leagues.
Only offer i have got in one league is Jermaine kearse from a AP owner.
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
LOLJecked wrote:.Only offer i have got in one league is Jermaine kearse from a AP owner.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
Scooped him up from waivers after someone dropped him for Chad Henne. Hoping I can package him with Andre Johnson or Pierre Garcon for a top 10 WR.
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D. Hopkins, A. Cooper, C. Kupp, D. Johnson, G. Davis, D. Mims, J. Palmer
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C. Young, R. Quinn
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I put him on the trading block last week in a PPR league, and just asked for an offer. It has just been crickets so far. I would anticipate things picking up next week if he shows up again the box score. I'm trying to get a gauge on value too.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I have him on the team in my sig. I picked him up off waivers the night the AP news broke when someone else had already grabbed Asiata.
With that said, not going to saying I won't trade him but it would have to take a pretty good offer for me to let him go. If only because my depth behind McCoy & Bell is pretty bad.
Plus, I'm not sure what I could get that would help me.
With that said, not going to saying I won't trade him but it would have to take a pretty good offer for me to let him go. If only because my depth behind McCoy & Bell is pretty bad.
Plus, I'm not sure what I could get that would help me.
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
That's basically my situation. Unless I get a proven rb in return(which would be ridiculous) I have no reason not to see how it plays out.PhadedCN wrote:I have him on the team in my sig. I picked him up off waivers the night the AP news broke when someone else had already grabbed Asiata.
With that said, not going to saying I won't trade him but it would have to take a pretty good offer for me to let him go. If only because my depth behind McCoy & Bell is pretty bad.
Plus, I'm not sure what I could get that would help me.
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
I definitely wouldn't describe it that way. http://www.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDisguise ... nshorthairManuManu wrote:I only watched a little of that game during commercials for Niners-Eagles. I read that he fell down on a potential long TD. Is that right?
Vikes will be drafting RB regardless. There was already rumor that the Vikes needed to do something about Peterson's 2015 salary. Asiata wasn't here for the role he's been thrust into. Even if ADP does stay I'd call it a horse apiece on the pros cons of playing vs. not playing re: draft risks. It may even be more likely that a front office will do a draft hedge when a prospect in waiting hasn't proven it on the field.ManuManu wrote: Anyway, my concern with McKinnon once AP was suspended was that it pushed his timeline ahead a year early. I looked at this as a redshirt season with hopes of him flashing enough next year to replace AP in 2016. Now he HAS to play well this year or the Vikings will draft the heir apparent in 2015.
Anyone else see it this way? Part of me wants to trade him now, but I'm intrigued enough by the athleticism that sitting on him seems like the right move.
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
Completely baseless projections with nothing to back them up. They drafted him in the 3rd. If he performs admirably they'll leave him. If he performs okay, maybe they sign a free agent and use their picks on a position of more need. Maybe they leave him anyway. Maybe AP comes back for the '15 season. In any case, no, they won't be "drafting a rb regardless", and they already took precautions about AP's 2015 salary. 3rd round draft pick.mnnightowl wrote:I definitely wouldn't describe it that way. http://www.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDisguise ... nshorthairManuManu wrote:I only watched a little of that game during commercials for Niners-Eagles. I read that he fell down on a potential long TD. Is that right?Vikes will be drafting RB regardless. There was already rumor that the Vikes needed to do something about Peterson's 2015 salary. Asiata wasn't here for the role he's been thrust into. Even if ADP does stay I'd call it a horse apiece on the pros cons of playing vs. not playing re: draft risks. It may even be more likely that a front office will do a draft hedge when a prospect in waiting hasn't proven it on the field.ManuManu wrote: Anyway, my concern with McKinnon once AP was suspended was that it pushed his timeline ahead a year early. I looked at this as a redshirt season with hopes of him flashing enough next year to replace AP in 2016. Now he HAS to play well this year or the Vikings will draft the heir apparent in 2015.
Anyone else see it this way? Part of me wants to trade him now, but I'm intrigued enough by the athleticism that sitting on him seems like the right move.
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RB JT, Chubb, A. Jones, Dobbins, D. Pierce, R. White, K. Miller
WR Deebo, Metcalf, Higgins, Juju, E. Moore, Toney, M. Wilson, T. Thornton
TE Schultz, Kincaid, Musgrave, Likely
QB Murray, Stafford
RB JT, Chubb, A. Jones, Dobbins, D. Pierce, R. White, K. Miller
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Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
Would you be less irritable if I'd said "they will bring in competition regardless"? They will. And if Peterson is on this roster in 2015 I'll eat my hat. That you would even speculate it speaks volumes.joshb wrote:Completely baseless projections with nothing to back them up. They drafted him in the 3rd. If he performs admirably they'll leave him. If he performs okay, maybe they sign a free agent and use their picks on a position of more need. Maybe they leave him anyway. Maybe AP comes back for the '15 season. In any case, no, they won't be "drafting a rb regardless", and they already took precautions about AP's 2015 salary. 3rd round draft pick.mnnightowl wrote:I definitely wouldn't describe it that way. http://www.gfycat.com/SatisfiedDisguise ... nshorthairManuManu wrote:I only watched a little of that game during commercials for Niners-Eagles. I read that he fell down on a potential long TD. Is that right?Vikes will be drafting RB regardless. There was already rumor that the Vikes needed to do something about Peterson's 2015 salary. Asiata wasn't here for the role he's been thrust into. Even if ADP does stay I'd call it a horse apiece on the pros cons of playing vs. not playing re: draft risks. It may even be more likely that a front office will do a draft hedge when a prospect in waiting hasn't proven it on the field.ManuManu wrote: Anyway, my concern with McKinnon once AP was suspended was that it pushed his timeline ahead a year early. I looked at this as a redshirt season with hopes of him flashing enough next year to replace AP in 2016. Now he HAS to play well this year or the Vikings will draft the heir apparent in 2015.
Anyone else see it this way? Part of me wants to trade him now, but I'm intrigued enough by the athleticism that sitting on him seems like the right move.
Re: Jerick Mckinnon, poor man's C.Michael?
If you can get a 1st for him, I say do it.