Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

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Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby mullmania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:41 pm

Bad offensive line. Diminshing weapons.

I don't think the loss of PRich and Graham is nothing.

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:44 pm

Yes absolutely he is still a stud QB1.

He is still one of the most talented QBs in the NFL, and nothing there has changed. He lost some weapons, but how much of Wilson's career-long value has been tied to Paul Richardson? Almost none. Jimmy G is a weapon lost, but he was flat out terrible for stretches last year.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby Phaded » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:45 pm

Yes. I mean.. He basically did it with nothing last year.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby Goddard » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:47 pm

Not only is he still a QB1, but he's also been their best RB ever since Lynch left.

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby DinoDynasty » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:49 pm

If the question is, is he an elite QB 1 IRL, then his supporting cast shouldn't dictate that. He's a top 3-5 QB in the league.

If the question is, is he a fantasy elite QB 1, he still has legs, so nothing has changed.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby Goddard » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:51 pm

Also, if they replace Graham with ASJ, I actually think it'll be an upgrade. As for Richardson, I like him, but he's very replaceable.

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby mullmania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 1:57 pm

^ Word. I feel that on ASJ. Graham didn't do a whole lot after the catch.

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby mclilj » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:02 pm

He was the highest scoring qb last yr right? Of course he's elite.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby jetsfan5757 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:03 pm

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby mullmania » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:15 pm

I'm not making the case, just asking the question, but you guys seem pretty damn sure. I have no doubt Russ is an elite real life QB and NFL player.

In 2017 he threw 34 touch down passes on 553 attempts.

In 2016 he threw 21 touch down passes on 546 attempts.

You guys don't think a regression to the mean is possible?

His passing tds totals since 2015: 20, 34, 21, 34


I'm not saying he won't be a dynasty QB 1 asset, I'm asking if you still think he finishes top 5 at the QB position in actual fantasy scoring next season.

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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby Phaded » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:19 pm

And in 2015 he threw 34 touchdowns with 483 attempts.

I think the last 3 years is the ideal sample size to look at as a QB; and if anything, the 21 TD year seems like the outlier.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby Gtdano_14 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:29 pm

Phaded wrote:
Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:19 pm
And in 2015 he threw 34 touchdowns with 483 attempts.

I think the last 3 years is the ideal sample size to look at as a QB; and if anything, the 21 TD year seems like the outlier.
Don't forget - Russell played injured the majority of 2016, which AT LEAST assisted in the low passing TDs and he finished with 230 less rushing yards that season than his previous low mark for a season.

So to answer the OP's question: Yes, he is an elite QB 1 who only has to throw for 30 TDs to be in the top 3-5 QB conversation each year thanks to his rushing ability. He has several more years before his rushing numbers start to dip.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby skip » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:03 pm

Garbage at RB, garbage offensive line, and a receiving group of Baldwin, Richardson, Graham, and Lockett. This is a middling/low end group and he still managed to be the #1 QB last season. I've been a big Wilson fan since he came into the league. He has incredible perception and reactions and is actually a better QB on the move than in the pocket. Easily the most versatile at the position and possibly the smartest as well. There are only a handful of players virtually guaranteed to finish as top 5 at their position and Wilson is one of them.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby AlPal&Ange » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:26 pm

If Joe Flacco is Elite, then Wilson definitly is! :P But in all seriousness he's a top 3 QB I would say.
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Re: Is Russell Wilson still an Elite QB 1?

Postby hockeyBjj » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:31 pm

Is the literal highest scoring fantasy football player despite 0 support last year a QB1

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