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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Phaded » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:45 pm

I think this is a great opportunity to sell.

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Dr.Graffin » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:46 pm

I'm willing to offer Rudolph straight for Graham. I'm a Packers fan though. I think it's a legit swap.
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9

12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:54 pm

Dr.Graffin wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:46 pm I'm willing to offer Rudolph straight for Graham. I'm a Packers fan though. I think it's a legit swap.
Just attempted this in my league and the Packer fan said he thought Cousins/Rudolph was a better duo.

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Dr.Graffin » Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:58 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:54 pm
Dr.Graffin wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:46 pm I'm willing to offer Rudolph straight for Graham. I'm a Packers fan though. I think it's a legit swap.
Just attempted this in my league and the Packer fan said he thought Cousins/Rudolph was a better duo.
I could imagine someone preferring Rudolph no doubt. He's approx. 4 yrs younger, doesn't have a significant injury history..But Graham has the better QB, less competition for targets (atm) as compared to Rudolph, a displayed higher ceiling.

Regardless, for me, H. Henry is my TE of the future, so Rudolph is tradable.
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9

12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:04 pm

Blackout wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 2:44 pm Maybe i'm alone but Jared Cook, Martellus Bennett and Lance Kendricks did really bad in GB. Jimmy G is far better but declining. I'm not falling in love and Rodgers doesn't change anything. GB is not using their TEs.
Well, something to consider is that GB produced a top 9 TE in 2015 (Richard Rodgers), the year Jordy was gone for injury. They still had Adams, Cobb, and James Jones all that year. I think we can all agree that the current version of Graham is still better than the 2015 Richard Rodgers.

With Jordy gone and Cobb not looking that great these days, it's def not out of the realm of possibility that Graham hits 10-12 TDs. He might not get a ton of yardage, but he'll still be a great weapon in the RZ, and Aaron Rodgers throws about 35 TDs a year, and they all can't be going to Adams...

He might be TD dependent, but Graham should be a top 5 TE again...like he's been for the past 4 out of 5 years...

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby cornhole2412 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:20 pm

As a die hard cheese head I love this, it can't be worse than our recent TE play. As a Jimmy owner... not much changes for me. He'll have some monster weeks and some duds. But the lack of TE production doesn't have anything to do with the system or Arod for that matter. Its the poor play by the TEs. R.Rodgers isn't a very good receiver, Cook was hurt most of the year, and Bennett, while they didn't go to him much the first few weeks, played awful.

I know it seems like ages ago but a favorite target of Aaron was once a TE named Jermichael Finley. The offense will not run through Jimmy but he will play a big part of it, my guess is in the red zone since the Jordy release. My advice for moving him is find the Packer fan in your league after Rodgers makes his first comment about his new toy. That will be the height of his value for Packer fans
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Re: Graham to GB

Postby koalabear » Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:58 pm

Good decoy to take red zone coverage away from Adams.

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QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
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RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

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QB: Jackson, Prescott, Brady
RB: Singletary, Harris
WR: Jefferson, Adams, Burks, Evans, Lockett
TE: Hockenson
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Re: Graham to GB

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:54 pm

Great situation. Jordy is gone, Graham is coming in to be a red zone threat and a perhaps more. Come on, he's with A-Rod. Wilson is good, but nobody can sling it like A Rod. This is obviously a great thing for any Graham owner. Maybe A-Rod didn't use his TE's because they weren't that good? I'm sure he'll find a way to get the ball to a guy like Graham. They aren't bringing him there for window dressing.
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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:26 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:54 pm Great situation. Jordy is gone, Graham is coming in to be a red zone threat and a perhaps more. Come on, he's with A-Rod. Wilson is good, but nobody can sling it like A Rod. This is obviously a great thing for any Graham owner. Maybe A-Rod didn't use his TE's because they weren't that good? I'm sure he'll find a way to get the ball to a guy like Graham. They aren't bringing him there for window dressing.
I agree with several points but I can't get past the part where Graham looks awful moving around. He is much slower and looks stiff. Red zone work keeps him afloat and with Rodgers I guess he could easily get 10+ touchdowns. I think he's a sell to someone excited about the news if it benefits your roster.

I am someone who cares very little about tight ends though and I hate them all so take my advice with a grain of salt.

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby James McGhee » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:27 pm

I hate that Aaron Rodgers is called A-Rod
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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:28 pm

One last note, the only reason he was even fantasy viable last season was because of that goal line box out screen they kept using. Other than that he contributed very little. His yardage totals were pretty rough and he completely disappeared down the stretch.

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Ray Finkle » Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:42 pm

James McGhee wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:27 pm I hate that Aaron Rodgers is called A-Rod
I agree. Gotta go with ARodge. Regardless, the Packers are stupid. Sell Jimmy now.

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Ththaman » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:46 pm

I got offered Olsen and 2.1 for him. Instant accept ?

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Dr.Graffin » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:50 pm

Ththaman wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:46 pm I got offered Olsen and 2.1 for him. Instant accept ?
Yes and I like Graham in GB as a Packers fan.

Graham=Olsen
2.1=Free pick.
12 Team Non-PPR, 6pt TDs-22' R/U, 23' R/U
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 2Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: P. Mahomes, R. Tannehill
RB: D. Achane, D. Henry, J. Mixon, A. Ekeler, M. Sanders
WR: T. Hill, D. Smith, D. J. Moore, D. Samuel, T. Higgins, D. Hopkins, O. Beckham, D. Wicks, J. Metchie
TE: T. Kelce, C. Kmet, H. Henry, M. Gesicki
K: J. Tucker
D/ST: Baltimore, Jacksonville
2024 Picks: 4.9

12 Team .5 PPR, 6pt TDs
1QB, 2RBs, 2WRs, 1TE, 3Flex (W/R/T), 1K, 1DST
QB: J. Love, J. Herbert
RB: S. Barkley, J. Cook, I. Pacheco, Br. Robinson, D. Singletary, D. Pierce
WR: D. J. Moore, J. Waddle, Z. Flowers, T. Higgins, C. Watson, J. Downs, J. Dotson, R. Shaheed
TE: T. McBride, H. Henry, M. Gesicki, C. Okonkwo, J. Woods
K: T. Bass
D/ST: Jacksonville, Indianapolis
2024 Picks: 2.7, 3.2, 4.11

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Re: Graham to GB

Postby Jfever » Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:00 pm

Ththaman wrote: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:46 pm I got offered Olsen and 2.1 for him. Instant accept ?
Absolutely! Accept that offer post haste!
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