Landry to Browns

[hjernazian]

Call me crazy, but I like it. It’s not ideal, but Landry isn’t a true big bodied WR1. He does most of his work up the middle and in under routes. He compliments Gordon very very well, more so a bump in real life than fantasy. I think his 112 catches last year were unsustainable, but it’s alright because I project he catches more TDs on the Browns and without Jay Cutler. I am more worried about the development and role of Njoku, as Landry and what seems like a resigning of D Johnson will drastically cut into Njokus targets. Also - if the browns do draft a QB and allow him to hit the field soon, Landry and Njoku are primed for a big load as Gordon will be the deep threat— and as we know a young QBs favorite weapon is the under routes by slot WRs and TE dump offs.

[bsp27]

I'm not confident in saying that if you switched the two (Landry and Hopkins) that they'd be interchangeable and produce similarly with the same targets. It could be close, but, who knows.....

But.... I do think it is close enough to compare. I see Landry as a special talent. When you watch him play, it seems clear. OR, at least when I've watched him play, he stands out. I'm a big fan of Landry. I see him as a tough football player. I love the grit that he plays with. I don't minimize his relevance based off of a few statistics like yards per reception or even overall yards on the season because I understand / or think I understand, that the situation he was coming from wasn't normal. I think the Qb's that have been throwing the ball in Miami (Tannehill, Cutler) and the running game, as well as other wide receivers (injured or otherwise) all have to be taken into consideration. Even the scores of the games and variables like these have to be included in order to truly make sense of the stats that get brought up (YPR, total Yards, Yards per target, etc.). Over using those numbers while ignoring how the kid plays is a mistake. I don't think that guys like Tate, Snead, Matthews are near as tough. I don't think they play as hard, run as hard, and have the same mind set. I've seen them all play, and, I don't have them in the same category as Landry. If I'm a head coach or an offensive coordinator, I want Landry on my team. I don't want to pay my slot guy what my #1 outside guy will demand, but, I think we have been in a trend lately and since W.Welker, G.Jennings, V.Cruz, etc, the slot guys are much more impact-full to a good, well rounded, take advantage of mismatches - offense.

no offense, but this is truly atrocious analysis. Actually, I can't even call this analysis, it's just gibberish.

[bsp27]

From a standpoint of fantasy football, we can surely compare the two. And if Landry was given the targets Nuk gets, they'd score similar points across the season.

At the end of the day, it's fantasy points that matter. And Nuk achieves those points less efficiently than Landry. And that gap will only increase as Landry joins what could be a very good offense, which Miami wasnt.

Sorry, but this is completely false. How does Hopkins accrue fantasy points less efficiently when he averages 1.79 fantasy points per target and Landry averages 1.63?

[WhatWouldDitkaDo]

From a standpoint of fantasy football, we can surely compare the two. And if Landry was given the targets Nuk gets, they'd score similar points across the season.

At the end of the day, it's fantasy points that matter. And Nuk achieves those points less efficiently than Landry. And that gap will only increase as Landry joins what could be a very good offense, which Miami wasnt.

Wow. I have zero interest in acquiring Landry given how overvalued he is.

[Jfever]

I'm not confident in saying that if you switched the two (Landry and Hopkins) that they'd be interchangeable and produce similarly with the same targets. It could be close, but, who knows.....

But.... I do think it is close enough to compare. I see Landry as a special talent. When you watch him play, it seems clear. OR, at least when I've watched him play, he stands out. I'm a big fan of Landry. I see him as a tough football player. I love the grit that he plays with. I don't minimize his relevance based off of a few statistics like yards per reception or even overall yards on the season because I understand / or think I understand, that the situation he was coming from wasn't normal. I think the Qb's that have been throwing the ball in Miami (Tannehill, Cutler) and the running game, as well as other wide receivers (injured or otherwise) all have to be taken into consideration. Even the scores of the games and variables like these have to be included in order to truly make sense of the stats that get brought up (YPR, total Yards, Yards per target, etc.). Over using those numbers while ignoring how the kid plays is a mistake. I don't think that guys like Tate, Snead, Matthews are near as tough. I don't think they play as hard, run as hard, and have the same mind set. I've seen them all play, and, I don't have them in the same category as Landry. If I'm a head coach or an offensive coordinator, I want Landry on my team. I don't want to pay my slot guy what my #1 outside guy will demand, but, I think we have been in a trend lately and since W.Welker, G.Jennings, V.Cruz, etc, the slot guys are much more impact-full to a good, well rounded, take advantage of mismatches - offense.

no offense, but this is truly atrocious analysis. Actually, I can't even call this analysis, it's just gibberish.

You know what is funny? Typically, when someone says "no offense" - they quite literally mean offense by what they are about to say. So.... thanks bud! Your a peach! Your response, your quote, and the fact that you brought less than nothing of context to the discussion says more than enough. Thanks for taken the time to throw your 2 bits into the circle. Although, I'm not sure what your point was other than to be a dick. As if you have any merit to call another opinion on any given player out. Where do ya get off I'm wondering? What a douche baggy comment by the way.... If that is what you were after, ya nailed it!

Try watching an NFL game from time to time rather than spending time looking at box scores and meaningless statistics designed to allow the user to formulate and back up their own agenda or bias.

[bsp27]

I'm not confident in saying that if you switched the two (Landry and Hopkins) that they'd be interchangeable and produce similarly with the same targets. It could be close, but, who knows.....

But.... I do think it is close enough to compare. I see Landry as a special talent. When you watch him play, it seems clear. OR, at least when I've watched him play, he stands out. I'm a big fan of Landry. I see him as a tough football player. I love the grit that he plays with. I don't minimize his relevance based off of a few statistics like yards per reception or even overall yards on the season because I understand / or think I understand, that the situation he was coming from wasn't normal. I think the Qb's that have been throwing the ball in Miami (Tannehill, Cutler) and the running game, as well as other wide receivers (injured or otherwise) all have to be taken into consideration. Even the scores of the games and variables like these have to be included in order to truly make sense of the stats that get brought up (YPR, total Yards, Yards per target, etc.). Over using those numbers while ignoring how the kid plays is a mistake. I don't think that guys like Tate, Snead, Matthews are near as tough. I don't think they play as hard, run as hard, and have the same mind set. I've seen them all play, and, I don't have them in the same category as Landry. If I'm a head coach or an offensive coordinator, I want Landry on my team. I don't want to pay my slot guy what my #1 outside guy will demand, but, I think we have been in a trend lately and since W.Welker, G.Jennings, V.Cruz, etc, the slot guys are much more impact-full to a good, well rounded, take advantage of mismatches - offense.

no offense, but this is truly atrocious analysis. Actually, I can't even call this analysis, it's just gibberish.

You know what is funny? Typically, when someone says "no offense" - they quite literally mean offense by what they are about to say. So.... thanks bud! Your a peach! Your response, your quote, and the fact that you brought less than nothing of context to the discussion says more than enough. Thanks for taken the time to throw your 2 bits into the circle. Although, I'm not sure what your point was other than to be a dick. As if you have any merit to call another opinion on any given player out. Where do ya get off I'm wondering? What a douche baggy comment by the way.... If that is what you were after, ya nailed it!

Try watching an NFL game from time to time rather than spending time looking at box scores and meaningless statistics designed to allow the user to formulate and back up their own agenda or bias.

I contributed just as much to the discussion as you did, maybe more.

[ninotoreS]

That's a lot for a WR 3. I mean, Coleman WR1, Gordon WR2 and all (literally LOL as I type)

Only nominally. Coleman is the big loser here; it is likely he finishes a distant third to Landry and Gordon in receptions this year, assuming they all play 16 games.

Ha, my sarcasm didn't transfer well to this post.

Nah, looking back I think it was plain enough, I was just thickheaded, apparently.

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Browns signed Jarvis Landry to a five-year, $75.5 million extension through 2023.

ESPN's Josina Anderson was the first to report the impending deal. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the contract includes $47 million guaranteed, and Landry is now the fifth-highest paid receiver in the league based on average salary. It is a shocking price to pay for a volume-based player who never elevated Miami's passing attack past mediocre, but Landry at worst can be a reliable safety blanket for whichever quarterback Cleveland selects with the No. 1 overall pick.

I expected it by the end of March... Took an extra 12 days but a deal was obviously coming at some point.

[hockeyBjj]

Here's to hoping and praying that financial value to him results in Browns still using him as much as Miami did for his ppr number to stay up there

#3, #10, #4 WR in ppr last 3 years