And what does any of that have to do with what running backs do?
Oh wait,
And what does any of that have to do with what running backs do?
Wow someone's jaded, people are always harping on about random players so there is plenty of people who might have loved Moore before the combine. Just look at ballage, randomly high on some people's people's list, it happens.
That is one hell of an argument.Vcize wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:22 pmAllen's 3 season college stats are almost identical to Ridley's, if not a little worse.bsp27 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:06 pmThe problem with Ridley is he didn't dominate despite being an older player with much more experience. He posted average production, with below average breakout age and 7th percentile SPARQ athleticism. There are very few successful nfl players with resumes as poor as Ridley's.
And Keenan Allen was much much much more productive in college and at an earlier age.
Allen: 205-2570-17
Ridley: 224-2781-19
Additionally WR stats are generally quite a bit lower in the SEC than in other conferences. Ridley's college production is right on par with Julio Jones, AJ Green, and OBJ.
Further, given that his best season was his freshman season (the only year he played without Hurts at QB), it would seem there is some merit to the idea that having a young running QB was not ideal for his production.
There are certainly reasons to doubt Ridley. The production angle is silly though. Of the current top 10 dynasty WRs, Ridley bested 7 of them in college receptions and 6 of them in receiving yards and TDs.
Freeman has been a top 4 RB of mine for a few months. I like him more than Guice and Chubb but know he should go later in the draft.hockeyBjj wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:16 am Friend of mine, who traded up to get Kamara ahead of Hunt, Foreman and, Perine in the draft last year and has a good hit % on his picks. He also grabbed Jordan Howard early in the 2nd the year before when every ranking said that was too early.
Well he mentioned that Royce Freeman is his 1.4 when talking about a different league he's in.
Anyone else see it? I've not even heard him mentioned really in the 1st round of rookie picks
Anyone else I would have just chuckled, but this guy has a reputation for finding those rookie RBs. Also a reputation to vastly overpay for "his" guy so his teams aren't quite championship level lol
The only scenario I put Freeman that high is if the NFL drafts him high, and he lands on the right team. If he goes late than that speaks volumes on how much opportunity he will likely get. Theres always exceptions to every rule though.hockeyBjj wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:16 am Friend of mine, who traded up to get Kamara ahead of Hunt, Foreman and, Perine in the draft last year and has a good hit % on his picks. He also grabbed Jordan Howard early in the 2nd the year before when every ranking said that was too early.
Well he mentioned that Royce Freeman is his 1.4 when talking about a different league he's in.
Anyone else see it? I've not even heard him mentioned really in the 1st round of rookie picks
Anyone else I would have just chuckled, but this guy has a reputation for finding those rookie RBs. Also a reputation to vastly overpay for "his" guy so his teams aren't quite championship level lol
I don't know about 1.04, but I do put him at the 5/6 spots between himself and RoJo. I may take him over RoJo, or even Penny.Bot101 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:54 amThe only scenario I put Freeman that high is if the NFL drafts him high, and he lands on the right team. If he goes late than that speaks volumes on how much opportunity he will likely get. Theres always exceptions to every rule though.hockeyBjj wrote: ↑Tue Apr 03, 2018 6:16 am Friend of mine, who traded up to get Kamara ahead of Hunt, Foreman and, Perine in the draft last year and has a good hit % on his picks. He also grabbed Jordan Howard early in the 2nd the year before when every ranking said that was too early.
Well he mentioned that Royce Freeman is his 1.4 when talking about a different league he's in.
Anyone else see it? I've not even heard him mentioned really in the 1st round of rookie picks
Anyone else I would have just chuckled, but this guy has a reputation for finding those rookie RBs. Also a reputation to vastly overpay for "his" guy so his teams aren't quite championship level lol
I've always felt that not watching college prospects during the season and only watching their game film after the season is over is the best way to evaluate. That way you skip all of the hype/stats and only watch what is on tape.Blackout wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:18 pm I was going on Youtube highlights views tonite to maybe change some rankings. Until now i've more seen rankings, comparisons with articles on strengths and weaknesses, combine, metrics...to do so. But highlights it's no more that a positive side of the player about what he can do and not what he's not able to. It's not enough to avoid bad surprises.
Do you guys watch entire college games tapes to see the underthrows/overthrows made by QBs, fumbles of RBs, wrong routes and drops of WRs etc...and have a complete review ? Even if a guy good on tape could translate not so well in NFL of course.
Those who watch NCAA have an edge. I don't and if i have to watch a hundred games for all the prospects on my list...
It's like a "Who's got the best highlights" vs "Who's got the less weaknesses" in the way of scouting.
One thing I have been doing lately is watching prospects with similar comps against a prospect I am evaluating. So for instance, people comp Michel to Kamara. I'll watch film of Michel, then Kamara. 1 game each at a time. College tape only. Or find a RB like Chubb, and watch Carlos Hyde's college tape against it. Similar size/weight. We know what Hyde could do at the NFL level, so how does Chubb look vs Hyde's college tape?dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:52 pmI've always felt that not watching college prospects during the season and only watching their game film after the season is over is the best way to evaluate. That way you skip all of the hype/stats and only watch what is on tape.Blackout wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:18 pm I was going on Youtube highlights views tonite to maybe change some rankings. Until now i've more seen rankings, comparisons with articles on strengths and weaknesses, combine, metrics...to do so. But highlights it's no more that a positive side of the player about what he can do and not what he's not able to. It's not enough to avoid bad surprises.
Do you guys watch entire college games tapes to see the underthrows/overthrows made by QBs, fumbles of RBs, wrong routes and drops of WRs etc...and have a complete review ? Even if a guy good on tape could translate not so well in NFL of course.
Those who watch NCAA have an edge. I don't and if i have to watch a hundred games for all the prospects on my list...
It's like a "Who's got the best highlights" vs "Who's got the less weaknesses" in the way of scouting.
I think that's a really good ideaFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:05 pmOne thing I have been doing lately is watching prospects with similar comps against a prospect I am evaluating. So for instance, people comp Michel to Kamara. I'll watch film of Michel, then Kamara. 1 game each at a time. College tape only. Or find a RB like Chubb, and watch Carlos Hyde's college tape against it. Similar size/weight. We know what Hyde could do at the NFL level, so how does Chubb look vs Hyde's college tape?dynastyninja wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:52 pmI've always felt that not watching college prospects during the season and only watching their game film after the season is over is the best way to evaluate. That way you skip all of the hype/stats and only watch what is on tape.Blackout wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:18 pm I was going on Youtube highlights views tonite to maybe change some rankings. Until now i've more seen rankings, comparisons with articles on strengths and weaknesses, combine, metrics...to do so. But highlights it's no more that a positive side of the player about what he can do and not what he's not able to. It's not enough to avoid bad surprises.
Do you guys watch entire college games tapes to see the underthrows/overthrows made by QBs, fumbles of RBs, wrong routes and drops of WRs etc...and have a complete review ? Even if a guy good on tape could translate not so well in NFL of course.
Those who watch NCAA have an edge. I don't and if i have to watch a hundred games for all the prospects on my list...
It's like a "Who's got the best highlights" vs "Who's got the less weaknesses" in the way of scouting.
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