Release the Guice! - The Derrius Guice Discussion Thread

[Bot101]

Chubb is closing ground to me. A lot of questions about him are being answered

[nathanq42]

Chubb and Guice are much closer now than before

My drop off is after 1.03

[btv802]

Chubb is closing ground to me. A lot of questions about him are being answered

Agreed, Chubb had a big day. Draft capital/landing spot will probably be the determining factor between the two for many. The value in having the 1.02 is mostly having the choice now.

[Defender]

Chubb is closing ground to me. A lot of questions about him are being answered

Agreed, Chubb had a big day. Draft capital/landing spot will probably be the determining factor between the two for many. The value in having the 1.02 is mostly having the choice now.

It’s funny to hear this considering how freaquently I saw people put Chubb a tier below Guice, pre-combine.

[btv802]

It’s funny to hear this considering how freaquently I saw people put Chubb a tier below Guice, pre-combine.

Chubb was always going to be one of the fastest risers if he showed that he still had alien-like qualities at the combine.

[maxhyde]

It does feel like it’s 1.01 or bust. At the same time, I think people who own 1.02 know they hold a lot of power since 1.01 is unattainable without a serious overpay. Owners of 1.02 are holding out hope that they might get 85-90% of that.

Unfortunately 2018 draft picks seem to be valued higher than or equal to last year’s class. I’ve seen people trading top 25-30 players for the 4th or 5th pick, which seems nuts to me. Barkley hype and 2017 success have made this year’s picks wayyyyy overvalued in my opinion. If you can get the 1.02 at a reasonable price, then do it...but I bet you’ll have to pay more than you’d like.

Pretty much

[FantasyFreak]

Guice is almost 2 years younger without a major knee injury on his bio, though. Either one is good. 1.03 is the pick to have, IMO.

[btv802]

Guice is almost 2 years younger without a major knee injury on his bio, though. Either one is good. 1.03 is the pick to have, IMO.

For now yes. We'll see how the real NFL draft plays out.

[Cult of Dionysus]

The thing that some people may not have noticed yet, there's a bunch of teams in the top 10 who surely could use an elite RB: NYG, Indy, the JETS, Tampa Bay and Oakland. In fact, I'd say that there's more RB-needy teams in the top 10, than in the rest of the 1st combined.

Now I'm not saying that these teams will all draft RBs, but I think there's a good chance that NYG will take Barkley and that Indy, if Barkley is off the board, may trade down a few spots (allowing a QB needy team like the JETS to draft the #2 QB). I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd RB is taken at or before Tampa Bay.

Also, all of the landing spots in the top 10 would be great for any of these guys. Not like they'd get Mixoned.



So the value of Guice could take a significant jump if he's drafted in the top 10 to one of these really, really good landings spots.

[FantasyFreak]

The thing that some people may not have noticed yet, there's a bunch of teams in the top 10 who surely could use an elite RB: NYG, Indy, the JETS, Tampa Bay and Oakland. In fact, I'd say that there's more RB-needy teams in the top 10, than in the rest of the 1st combined.

Now I'm not saying that these teams will all draft RBs, but I think there's a good chance that NYG will take Barkley and that Indy, if Barkley is off the board, may trade down a few spots (allowing a QB needy team like the JETS to draft the #2 QB). I wouldn't be surprised if the 2nd RB is taken at or before Tampa Bay.

Also, all of the landing spots in the top 10 would be great for any of these guys. Not like they'd get Mixoned.



So the value of Guice could take a significant jump if he's drafted in the top 10 to one of these really, really good landings spots.

The fact that Indy does not need a QB, and the Giants might be tempted (as well as Denver being able to move up fro, 5 to 3 potentially) leads me to believe that Cleveland will take a QB at 1, unless they don't believe in any of them. The fact they passed on Wentz may create even more pressure to take a QB, because if they pass on another one that turns out to be good, there might be riots in the streets. Raiders won't take a RB in the first. I'd bet my bank account on it (unless Barkley somehow fell) Reggie and Gruden come from the GB school where they rarely take RB's high. It's a position they tend to wait on. They have so many needs on the defensive side of the ball, it will never happen. I think the highest Reggie has taken an RB is the 4th (Taiwan Jones) He took Latavius Murray in the 6th, and Washington in the 5th most recently

[ajmyk]

Guice reminds me of Doug Martin. I think he's very clearly the #2 prospect, but I think he's prone to being apart of a committee. He is a good RB, but I don't think he's a special RB. I would not trade Saquon Barkley for Guice, unless there was a significant piece coming back. Barkley is a three-down back and is special on the ground and in the receiving game. He could become the best RB in football one day and nobody will be surprised.

Ahah, just started to watch his tape and thought exactly the same. Muscle Hamster 2.0

[ZPalmtree]

I am a bit of an LSU fan, and agree the combine has helped Chubb close in on Guice. But running in a straight line in your underwear is a little different than making cuts in the 4th quarter with pads on against NFL defenses. I agree Chubb looks good tho.

[Blackout]

"Former LSU running back Derrius Guice said in an interview Wednesday that one NFL team asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute at the NFL Scouting Combine that concluded earlier this week."

Wow insane. You could always ask about sexuality even if it's not a factor to judge his talent but the second one was clearly a provocation that could have finished badly for the guy who asked Guice just said it was "crazy" and a test to see his reaction but that's all. Great self-control. When NFL guys are headcases they have no pity (except Bengals haha) for them but this kind of behaviour from people who have the power, should be banned too.

Whole story : https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 405776002/

[btv802]

"Former LSU running back Derrius Guice said in an interview Wednesday that one NFL team asked about his sexuality and another inquired if his mother was a prostitute at the NFL Scouting Combine that concluded earlier this week."

Wow insane. You could always ask about sexuality even if it's not a factor to judge his talent but the second one was clearly a provocation that could have finished badly for the guy who asked Guice just said it was "crazy" and a test to see his reaction but that's all. Great self-control. When NFL guys are headcases they have no pity (except Bengals haha) for them but this kind of behaviour from people who have the power, should be banned too.

Whole story : https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... 405776002/

It's 100% illegal to ask somebody about their sexual orientation in a job interview.

[Cult of Dionysus]

It's actually quite impressive that Guice is taking the high road and not naming/shaming the organization who did this. If I had to guess, I would say it probably wasn't San Fran or Seattle.