Burton

[Dynasty DeLorean]

You're trying to say he isn't green because green never beat out gates, as far as I can tell burton hasn't beat out ertz either. Also he isn't atop any depth chart yet so you probs need to come back down to earth just for now. I do like Burton more than green though but I'm not calling him a TE1 just yet.

No, what I'm saying is. He WILL be on top of another teams depth chart come September. An opportunity Ladarius Green never had.

That's not what you said at all. And Green certainly had a chance to be the starter in Pittsburgh...

[TheRookiePro]

"I don't think so. Green never won the job over Gates all those years in SD. Burton will be atop the depth chart this season. Also he had 5 TD off of 30 targets last season. Green has 8 in his entire career."

That's what I said in reply to your poor Green comparison. Prior to that the talk was of Burton leaving Philly in FA. I mentioned how the Saints would be a perfect destination. You likely skimmed past that and automatically assumed my comment on being atop the depth chart was in reference to the Eagles depth chart. I can't help how you interpret what I said.

I mistakenly assumed people on here were aware of Burton's situation, or would at least read the thread explaining it. It's practically a foregone conclusion that he's on his way out, demanding starting TE money because he wants to be a starting TE.

[ArrylT]

I'd be surprised if he lands on the Saints

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans- ... ener-9844/

Basically they'd have to cut Fleener ($3.4M of 2018 salary guarantees on 2/7/2018), eat the 8m in dead cap money, and then sign Burton - who you say is looking for starting TE money - to a similar contact (thus paying 1 TE for the price of 2).

If Burton is looking for starter money then he'll be looking for 5-7m a year.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/average/tight-end/

Speaking of L. Green he signed $20 for 4 years - or $5m a year.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

"Green never won the job over Gates all those years in SD. Burton will be atop the depth chart this season. "

That's what I said in reply to your poor Green comparison.

Don't fault us for your poorly worded statement. Any reasonable person interprets the statement exactly as I did.

[ArrylT]

"Green never won the job over Gates all those years in SD. Burton will be atop the depth chart this season. "

That's what I said in reply to your poor Green comparison.

Don't fault us for your poorly worded statement. Any reasonable person interprets the statement exactly as I did.

Unfortunately not every poster on this forum, or dynasty owner can be labeled reasonable.

[TheRookiePro]

"Green never won the job over Gates all those years in SD. Burton will be atop the depth chart this season. "

That's what I said in reply to your poor Green comparison.

Don't fault us for your poorly worded statement. Any reasonable person interprets the statement exactly as I did.

Just faulting you coz. Any reasonable person can take the time to read three sentences, especially when they were the first reply to this thread.

You ever notice how when you read an article or a novel the writer or author doesn't reiterate the same point they established in the beginning? Pretty reasonable wouldn't you say? Now lets move past your dumb mistake shall we?

[Dynasty DeLorean]

"Green never won the job over Gates all those years in SD. Burton will be atop the depth chart this season. "

That's what I said in reply to your poor Green comparison.

Don't fault us for your poorly worded statement. Any reasonable person interprets the statement exactly as I did.

Just faulting you coz. Any reasonable person can take the time to read three sentences, especially when they were the first reply to this thread.

Lets move past your dumb mistake shall we?

The mistake is you ignoring the fact that the Steelers signed Green to be their starter. Up to this point everything is trending exactly the same, the only difference being you like Burton more than Green.

[TheRookiePro]

Don't fault us for your poorly worded statement. Any reasonable person interprets the statement exactly as I did.

Just faulting you coz. Any reasonable person can take the time to read three sentences, especially when they were the first reply to this thread.

Lets move past your dumb mistake shall we?

The mistake is you ignoring the fact that the Steelers signed Green to be their starter. Up to this point everything is trending exactly the same, the only difference being you like Burton more than Green.

Don't you think it's a bit extreme to give him the Ladarius Green label? That has been cited as one of the worse contracts the Steelers have ever given. Green started that year off the PUP list, the idea of him being the number 1 lasted a few months and some hopeful weeks during the season as he lost the job to Jesse James.

You're just comparing their similar situations of being backup tight ends that left in free agency. The players are completely different. Green was a combine superstar while Burton went undrafted. Green was soft and disappointed every NFL coaching staff he's ever known, while Burton always makes plays and is entrusted to throw into the redzone against the Patriots in the SB.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

You're just comparing their similar situations of being backup tight ends that left in free agency.

uh, yeah...

[AussieMate]

You're just comparing their similar situations of being backup tight ends that left in free agency.

uh, yeah...

Lol not worth it DD, Burton and green situations are nothing alike. Green played for the chargers and Burton eagles, see totally different

[Dynasty DeLorean]

You're just comparing their similar situations of being backup tight ends that left in free agency.

uh, yeah...

Lol not worth it DD, Burton and green situations are nothing alike. Green played for the chargers and Burton eagles, see totally different

I like how he suddenly became an expert on Ladarius Green's time in Pittsburgh. It's almost as if he either didn't know or completely forgot that Ladarius signed with the Steelers to be the starter. After a short back and forth with me he finally decides to google it. He reads the first article that pops up in the search results which outlines Green's start on the PUP list and is coincidentally named "'Steelers release Ladarius Green, 'worst signing ever'" (notice how he says it's "one of the worse contracts"). Realizing he's wrong but remembering it's still the internet, he comes back here armed with this new 2 year old information and stubbornly doubles down whilst unintentionally confirming what I said. That's just my crazy theory anyway

[pokerface40]

To be fair Ladarius never got a true shot at it due to concussions. I'm still a big Ladarius guy if it weren't for that damn CTE.

Burton is a great buy right now if it isn't too late. He has been buried behind 2 good TEs his entire career, but shower well when getting the opportunity.

There are plenty of good landing spots outside of the Saints as well. HOU, JAX, MIA, NE, DAL, BAL off the top of my head. I bought him for Higbee and the 4.01, awesome speculative add imo.

[pokerface40]

To be fair Ladarius never got a true shot at it due to concussions. I'm still a big Ladarius guy if it weren't for that damn CTE.

Burton is a great buy right now if it isn't too late. He has been buried behind 2 good TEs his entire career, but showed well when getting the opportunity.

There are plenty of good landing spots outside of the Saints as well. HOU, JAX, MIA, NE, DAL, BAL off the top of my head. I bought him for Higbee and the 4.01, awesome speculative add imo.

[clarion contrarion]

green was a much better prospect than burton , were he healthy he had a chance to be a star . the best burton comp for me is delanie walker -age 29 breakout and 5 straight solid years in tenn. He was a guy buried behind vernon davis in SF .
I like burton but he isn't capable of being an unstoppable weapon the way green could have been without all the injuries. The steelers have had a bunch of worse contracts like jarvis jones rookie deal for instance - if green stayed healthy 4 years for 20MM$ would have been a damned steal.
Pretty much any TE with a pulse gains value with brees but ask any fleenor or hill owner it isn't a slam dunk. pro yammers about burton's td rate but in 2016 37 catches for 1 td is a bit less flashy . Burton is a buy but as a TE2 high upside flyer just like green was ,not a take it to the bank TE1 .

[IBall2]

Paging Burton

your buddies V. McDonald, L. Green, Fleener, Tim Wright, Troy Niklaus & Jace Amaro are awaiting your arrival in Post-Hypeville.

You can probably add Dwayne Allen, Jermaine Gresham and Martellus Bennett to this last also