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Martavis trade possibility

Postby kamihamster » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:25 pm

Saw a tweet referencing Ian Rap that the Panthers might be interested in trading for Martavis from the Steelers. I like the fit of him there, kinda a hybrid of Ginn (speed) and Kelvin (size). As a owner of him I hope this happens since it seems Juju is going to suck up any left over targets that don't go to Brown or Bell. Hopefully the Panthers get a new owner soon, and they can start making some moves.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby Phaded » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:37 pm

It does not matter if the Panthers are interested if the Steelers are not.

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:16 pm

I fully expect the Steelers to trade him. They have enough other guys (Juju, Eli Rogers) who can produce. NO need to keep a bad apple on the squad.

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby ArrylT » Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:46 pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... d-by-deals

NFL.com article mentioning the players they feel will most likely be traded this off-season (includes M. Bryant)

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby slaughterrt » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:36 pm

I don’t think that Carolina would be an upgrade for Bryant. He would probably be 4th receiver at best on a squad that isn’t known for their passing offense...finished 28th in passing yards per game last year. And with Olsen, Funchess, and CMC getting theirs, it’s hard to imagine a worse place for Bryant to end up.

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Feb 21, 2018 7:58 pm

slaughterrt wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:36 pm I don’t think that Carolina would be an upgrade for Bryant. He would probably be 4th receiver at best on a squad that isn’t known for their passing offense...finished 28th in passing yards per game last year. And with Olsen, Funchess, and CMC getting theirs, it’s hard to imagine a worse place for Bryant to end up.
I actually really like the fit. Carolina's offense struggled without a field stretcher like Ginn. They tried guys like Byrd, but no one was as effective. He may be merely a role player, but he'd be a good match from an NFL team need perspective.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby Blueboy » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:32 pm

No clue about Carolina, but I think there's a strong chance the Steelers trade him. He seemed completely toxic in their locker room last season, while the team was contending. He even requested a trade, iirc.

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby BigBawseRoss » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:15 am

Steelers will not trade him. they do not have the depth to do so. they did not take juju in the 2nd because they felt they had overwhelming WR depth. If they draft another rookie who seems he can play right away they might entertain it but as the team is currently constructed they do not have the depth to be able to ship him off (his value prob aint too high either with the complaining and down year of usage)
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby RB6 » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:37 am

I'd be surprised if the Steelers traded him. As an owner, I'd love to see Martavis somewhere else though.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby kamihamster » Thu Feb 22, 2018 3:41 pm

Also hearing the Dolphins, Jets, Redskins, and Colts have inquired about him. But the Steelers have now stated they are not trading him. Despite that, there's enough smoke here to make me think it's a possibility.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby SteveVolk » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:36 pm

Cult of Dionysus wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:16 pm I fully expect the Steelers to trade him. They have enough other guys (Juju, Eli Rogers) who can produce. NO need to keep a bad apple on the squad.
The Steelers had Rogers pegged as their WR4 for a reason and he just had ACL surgery after the season. I think they are gonna keep Bryant for the year.

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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby kamihamster » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:41 am

Now the news coming from Rapport is that the Steelers are not shopping him, but are listening to offers. I'd give it 3/5 chance he gets traded.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 am

I'm not sure what MB would do on a different team, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Steelers try to trade him for some value/picks and as a JuJu owner it only cements him being the #2 option there :)

Would make sense for the Steelers to move him. He's been a headache, still has good enough value, and they have his replacement all lined up and already producing when given the shot last year. Hope they do
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby kamihamster » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:02 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 am I'm not sure what MB would do on a different team, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Steelers try to trade him for some value/picks and as a JuJu owner it only cements him being the #2 option there :)

Would make sense for the Steelers to move him. He's been a headache, still has good enough value, and they have his replacement all lined up and already producing when given the shot last year. Hope they do
Agree. The only thing I think holding them back from activity shopping him is that he's still on his rookie contract and is cheap. But assuming things don't change much for him in 2018, he'll be the #3 WR, the #4 in targets (Brown, Bell, Juju, Bryant), so they know can't afford to pay him a new contract for that kind of role (especially if they pay Bell). So I think they are weighing the cost of one year of cheap production and losing him with no compensation in free agency in 2019 versus losing out on that production but getting something for him. I think any team that wants him is going to have to overpay to get him.
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Re: Martavis trade possibility

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:15 am

The thing to me people are underrating is the fact that if they hold him and let him walk in FA next year he should be able to net them a decentish comp pick depending on how much he signs for (I could see something similar to Paul Richardson or Kenny Britt) while still being able to have another year of a cheap depth guy.


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