Buy low targets - who are you going after

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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby James McGhee » Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 am

Cooper Kupp. He can probably be had fairly cheap (mid 2nd or later) and I think his role will continue to grow as the Goff and offense get even better. He's not the big play guy but he's the go-to consistent guy with a decent floor from week-to-week.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby AlPal&Ange » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:08 am

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:56 pm
Since the season ended, I've seen a bunch of the names in this thread mentioned in other buy low target threads.

Cousins seems like a new one? You aren't worried about where he might land?
I think Cousins is a pretty safe QB regarding landing spots... The top 3 places he might land is NYJ, MIN, or DEN, and I like the recieving corps in all three of those locations... Some may even be better than WAS was.

Cousins ADP places him at 14, and he has been the QB6 in 2017, QB5 in 2016, and QB9 in 2015. Seems low for a 29 year old QB for me.

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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby Phaded » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:24 am

My buy low list is pretty small this year compared to previous years. Not a whole lot of buy lows that I am interested in.
I typically have a bigger sell high list each year than buy low.
I never buy at at a high price, but my teams (aside from draft) will probably look very similar to last year.

The GB running backs not named Ty Montgomery would be my top two I suppose. The RB will not be Ty; and both Jones & Williams are relatively cheap according to the consensus. One of them will emerge as the favorite in what will be a high scoring offense.

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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby millworkguy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:07 am

James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 am Cooper Kupp. He can probably be had fairly cheap (mid 2nd or later) and I think his role will continue to grow as the Goff and offense get even better. He's not the big play guy but he's the go-to consistent guy with a decent floor from week-to-week.
Really? Most leagues I'm in guys are asking for a mid late 1st for him 1.08 or so.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby millworkguy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:10 am

Defender wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:48 am Yeldon
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Snead
Hogan
Not sure Hogan is at a low right now, yeldon I've bought and both him and snead ill continue to hold. Their value really can't get much lower imo, so why trade them for peanuts. I'd rather hold and get nothing
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby Missile » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:23 am

James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 am Cooper Kupp. He can probably be had fairly cheap (mid 2nd or later) and I think his role will continue to grow as the Goff and offense get even better. He's not the big play guy but he's the go-to consistent guy with a decent floor from week-to-week.
As a Kupp owner there is no way I’m selling for a mid 2nd

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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby millworkguy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:26 am

Jordy nelson is likely the cheapest he has ever been at this point (both with rodgers hurt last season and adams stepping up) while not a long term play he should put up much better numbers next season
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:28 pm

millworkguy wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:07 am
James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 am Cooper Kupp. He can probably be had fairly cheap (mid 2nd or later) and I think his role will continue to grow as the Goff and offense get even better. He's not the big play guy but he's the go-to consistent guy with a decent floor from week-to-week.
Really? Most leagues I'm in guys are asking for a mid late 1st for him 1.08 or so.
Depending on league and roster, I can see myself easily giving a late 1st for Kupp.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby btv802 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:19 pm

gameaholica wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:07 pm I targeted Cooper and got him.


Edited as you might think overpay:

Godwin
Clement
2018 3.1 pick

But this was and is how I valued Cooper.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby btv802 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:25 pm

Missile wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:23 am
millworkguy wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:07 am
James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:42 am Cooper Kupp. He can probably be had fairly cheap (mid 2nd or later) and I think his role will continue to grow as the Goff and offense get even better. He's not the big play guy but he's the go-to consistent guy with a decent floor from week-to-week.
Really? Most leagues I'm in guys are asking for a mid late 1st for him 1.08 or so.
As a Kupp owner there is no way I’m selling for a mid 2nd
Agreed Kupp cost a mid-late 2nd in actual rookie drafts last year. His price went up quite a bit.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby snaps06 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:30 pm

btv802 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:19 pm
gameaholica wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:07 pm I targeted Cooper and got him.


Edited as you might think overpay:

Godwin
Clement
2018 3.1 pick

But this was and is how I valued Cooper.
:think:
X2 on the head scratcher haha. That's insanely cheap for Cooper. The 3rd is probably the most valuable piece you gave up. I honestly don't understand how it could ever be viewed by anybody as an "overpay."
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby darewood11 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:38 pm

snaps06 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:13 pm
darewood11 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 5:38 pm Love the call on Jones and mixon. I recently grabbed mixon.

For eifert if you think he s a buy low what's the cost you'd be willing to pay?
To answer your question: I'd pay a late 2, early 3, but I imagine most people would part with him for a late 3rd or lower.

How much did Mixon cost for you? In all of my leagues he's still valued where he was last year, in the 1.2-1.5 range. I don't view him as a buy-low guy at all based upon my leagues' valuations.
I gave 1.03 for mixon but feel good about it. I was thinking about offering 2.08 for eifert just in case he can stay reasonably healthy and give me 10 games or something. I already own engram so wouldn't need him to be my 1. I'm Gona wait tho and try to get Ebron woth 2.08 first.

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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby btv802 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:52 pm

snaps06 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:30 pm X2 on the head scratcher haha. That's insanely cheap for Cooper. The 3rd is probably the most valuable piece you gave up. I honestly don't understand how it could ever be viewed by anybody as an "overpay."
I think the OP was wanting to make sure we didn't assume he overpaid in targeting Amari. Definitely not an overpay! On the contrary it was a total garbage package of mostly junk he sent for Coop.

Admittedly I do like Godwin a decent amount.
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby millworkguy » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:57 pm

darewood11 wrote: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:38 pm
snaps06 wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:13 pm For eifert if you think he s a buy low what's the cost you'd be willing to pay?
To answer your question: I'd pay a late 2, early 3, but I imagine most people would part with him for a late 3rd or lower.

How much did Mixon cost for you? In all of my leagues he's still valued where he was last year, in the 1.2-1.5 range. I don't view him as a buy-low guy at all based upon my leagues' valuations.
I gave 1.03 for mixon but feel good about it. I was thinking about offering 2.08 for eifert just in case he can stay reasonably healthy and give me 10 games or something. I already own engram so wouldn't need him to be my 1. I'm Gona wait tho and try to get Ebron woth 2.08 first.
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I think that's way too high for eifert. Wouldnt even be a 2nd thoight to click yes on that offer. I got ebron + near the trade deadline for 2.12 (16 team) and while he showed improvement I am still at the same spot on him buy for early 3rd, sell mid / low 2nd
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Re: Buy low targets - who are you going after

Postby btv802 » Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:09 pm

I'm not sure Mixon is such a great value this offseason unless you mean comparable to the rest of the 2017 RB class. His ADP seems to be holding steady but his trade value is probably admittedly not so great. That probably makes him available but not an obviously great value.

If you are a Mixon believer like myself you probably like him more than Michel/Chubb/Sutton/Jones/Ridley etc...So yeah 1.03 is a fine price to pay. He's also still younger than most of these '18 prospects so if you liked him last year, he's still a baby.
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