Laquon Treadwell with another team?

[Phaded]

I am probably the lowest on Treadwell as anyone and flat out said he would bust in the predaft process.

That said, yes there is not a history of this working out but being on another team really could not make matters any worse for him..

[BustedCoverage]

lol. Whoever you got this info from is full of chit.

[kamihamster]

lol. Whoever you got this info from is full of chit.

weird 1st post

[BustedCoverage]

lol. Whoever you got this info from is full of chit.

weird 1st post

Have to start somewhere. lol. Why is it weird?
A: The Vikings coaching staff thinks that Treadwell has potential and value his blocking ability.
B: He wouldn't fetch proper trade value.

[kamihamster]

So this just came to me with all the Cousins talk. IF the Vikings landed Cousins, is he a QB that would effectively use Treadwells skill set? If so, then maybe a trade for him isn't the best option. Although even if Cousins did, Treadwell still has to compete with Thielen and Diggs.

[Jfever]

I am probably the lowest on Treadwell as anyone and flat out said he would bust in the predaft process.

That said, yes there is not a history of this working out but being on another team really could not make matters any worse for him..

I'm just curious what you based your thoughts on? I find it self-serving and - pat me on the back-ish. But, if you saw something - congrats. Seems odd to me when people say things like that.

As a Vikings fan, and a guy that tries to stay plugged into what is going on in my home state of Minnesota. I see a young kid. A kid that was drafted young. A young wr with 2 seasons of NFL coaching under his belt. A kid with 2 seasons of maturing under his belt. A kid that is younger still than several rookie wr from this years draft class whom are currently preparing for the combine. A kid that not that long ago had a child of his own. A kid that is evolving into a young man and is settled down with the mother of his recent child. A young NFL WR that is on a defensive oriented team. * Hence a team that doesn't get into too many "shoot outs". A team that makes great attempts at being very balanced on offense. And --- he is behind two very talented and two very hard working wr's and a talented TE AND pass receiving rb.

Not much he can do but continue to work and wait his turn.

Great time to contemplate - Are you a talent over situation guy? Are you??? I see less and less patience from people in general as time goes on. We are an immediate gratification society with serious issues with recency bias and selective memories. Sad.

[Bot101]

Rumors and reports circulating that the Vikings might be shopping Treadwell for picks

I've heard the same thing about Doctson

I've dug around a little but haven't really found anything about this. Are there actual sources/links for this or is it merely radio people guessing or something? Genuinely curious.

Sorry, I think I heard it on a podcast. Don't remember which one.

It was a guest on the Rotounderworld pod who said the cowboys were inquiring about Doctson.

[clarion contrarion]

I see a way over rated wr that is at best 5th in line for targets with a completely unknown qb situation that is guaranteed 3.1 MM$ the next two years which will likely guarantee his roster spot but little else. If he were a 6th round pick he would have been cut and be languishing on someone's practice squad as opposed to people still dreaming he will be close to to where his draft capital said he may be. If the $ were not guaranteed he would get chopped to help make cap room to hire a qb to throw to the good wr on the roster. In fact were you wishing to take a shot on a high draft capitral wr on the vikes I suggest michael floyd he has been a mess but he at least has proven he can do it and he is cheaper than a bag of stale donuts these days.
When the NFL renews its practice of patience perhaps it will be warranted but a new class of shiny players come down the pike every year and nearly all of them will cost less than 3.1 MM$ guaranteed the next 2 years . Guys just like the two that he is buried behind on the depth chart 5th rounder & an udfa if I recall although a vikes homer fact checker can verify that. Or perhaps keelan cole or tyrell williams or juju ( he can block ask burfict when he wakes up) or cooper kupp or chris godwin or michael thomas or ten other guys drafted after him the last 2 years that are cheaper - YOU get my meaning right !

He is a resounding bust make no mistake , can he salvage some semblance of a career well it is possible it happens but if you can get anything for him approaching a decent value I would explode the accept button from striking it so violently.

[Sterling Archer]

I am probably the lowest on Treadwell as anyone and flat out said he would bust in the predaft process.

That said, yes there is not a history of this working out but being on another team really could not make matters any worse for him..

I'm just curious what you based your thoughts on?

I'm also curious about this. I've got no skin in this game, but still curious what criteria led to a "flat out bust" call. My guess is 40 time. Seemed like most people calling for him to bust hated on his 40 time.

If I knew he was going to get traded, I'd give up a 3rd for him. But I'm not going to give up a 3rd just for him to clog my roster for a few years while he sits behind Diggs and Thielen.

[Phaded]

I am probably the lowest on Treadwell as anyone and flat out said he would bust in the predaft process.

That said, yes there is not a history of this working out but being on another team really could not make matters any worse for him..

I'm just curious what you based your thoughts on?

I'm also curious about this. I've got no skin in this game, but still curious what criteria led to a "flat out bust" call. My guess is 40 time. Seemed like most people calling for him to bust hated on his 40 time.

It actually had nothing to do with his 40 time or even his combine, I thought he would bust even before the combine; all the combine numbers did was really reaffirm what was visible on the tape.

I am not by any means an expert - I have gotten pretty good at scouting wide receivers in my opinion, but when it comes to other skill positions, I am relatively inconsistent.

Without going into extreme detail as it has been a few years since I watched his tape - from what I recall, there were two MAJOR red flags for me when I watched him play. The first was that while he had a good share of contested catches, he regularly struggled to separate from college level defenders. While contested catches are great for highlight reels, contested catches won't cut it in the NFL - you need to be able to separate often to succeed; the fact he could not even do that regularly in college scared me off of him big time. He would have to try to separate against far superior competition so I had zero faith in him being able to do so. The second part of it was that he did not seem to play the game quickly or at a fast pace. When the number one thing you hear players say when going from college to the pros is that the game is a lot quicker, when someone is not playing at an amazing pace in college - that is also a major red flag for me.

JFever, it was not meant to be some sort of bragging when I said that so if it came across like that, I apologize - I really do not care what others think of my analysis as it is my analysis and I will not be swayed. My main reason for saying that was not everyone thought he was this surefire prospect that many were saying he was. I was not the only one saying he would bust, although I may have been the most outspoken of it.

He is still young and sure, he could turn it around but I would bet against it if I had to choose.

[Friction]

I was in a similar boat as you Phaded, though with me it was a combo of watching his college games and gut, which I trust for better or worse over most things. Live by the sword and die by the sword approach when it comes to that. I saw where he was going in drafts and knew there was no way he would end up on any of roster of mine, unless he plummeted in one of my rookie drafts. I think he would need a change of scenery too, since he is buried on the depth chart regardless and that at least does not look like it is changing anytime soon. If he did, you never know what could happen, but I still would be staying away from acquiring him unless the value was close to free or a throw in.

[RAB]

I drafted him as a rookie in the 5th round of my start up draft 2 years ago (SHOCKER ALERT: I didn't win that year). Now he sits on the FA list. That's probably where he stays. Even if the Vikings get Cousins he didn't do much to help out Doctson so that's still a question mark.

[hockeyBjj]

I'm a Vikings fan. Its not just that he's behind Diggs (a 5th rounder) and Thielen (undrafted) as his two really good WRs he can't pass, Treadwell is just bad

He doesn't have crisp routes. They're round, very easy to cover, so he's never open and when he does have the ball thrown his way, he has a drop problem. He's not athletic enough to make up for these technique problems either.

He couldn't just not catch Diggs or Thielen, he couldn't even catch or pass Jarius Wright to be the Vikings WR3 ever.

[cazzie33]

I see a way over rated wr that is at best 5th in line for targets with a completely unknown qb situation that is guaranteed 3.1 MM$ the next two years which will likely guarantee his roster spot but little else. If he were a 6th round pick he would have been cut and be languishing on someone's practice squad as opposed to people still dreaming he will be close to to where his draft capital said he may be. If the $ were not guaranteed he would get chopped to help make cap room to hire a qb to throw to the good wr on the roster. In fact were you wishing to take a shot on a high draft capitral wr on the vikes I suggest michael floyd he has been a mess but he at least has proven he can do it and he is cheaper than a bag of stale donuts these days.
When the NFL renews its practice of patience perhaps it will be warranted but a new class of shiny players come down the pike every year and nearly all of them will cost less than 3.1 MM$ guaranteed the next 2 years . Guys just like the two that he is buried behind on the depth chart 5th rounder & an udfa if I recall although a vikes homer fact checker can verify that. Or perhaps keelan cole or tyrell williams or juju ( he can block ask burfict when he wakes up) or cooper kupp or chris godwin or michael thomas or ten other guys drafted after him the last 2 years that are cheaper - YOU get my meaning right !

He is a resounding bust make no mistake , can he salvage some semblance of a career well it is possible it happens but if you can get anything for him approaching a decent value I would explode the accept button from striking it so violently.

So you think if he got a chance in a new place he'd be really good

[Dynasty DeLorean]

Correct me if i'm wrong but my theory is ppl who watch and/or paid attention to college football and were familiar with Treadwell before the NFL draft process liked him a lot more than ppl who don't watch college football like myself. I looked at his tape and was shocked that ppl thought he was the next Dez Bryant. I was more or less called and idiot for liking Doctson more.