Yes well thats all fine and dandy. But last I checked this was a dynasty fantasy football forum...CK_ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:35 amyes thank you, that was exactly where my mind was at when reading this.James McGhee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:05 amFrom a true footballing perspective he probably isn't wrong. From a dynasty value perspective ... Ehh. We might all be singing a different tune a decade from now if those three QBs are the next Brees, Brady and Manning and all of the RBs have already retired due to short shelf life.
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Eh that's nice. It was a discussion correct? Still of the standpoint people are overpaying dramatically for Barkley and they will be disappointed. Everyone keeps ignoring the fact this is an insanely stacked QB class and are too wrapped up in the glitz and glamour of the RBs of yesteryear which lingers to the next.Bot101 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:43 pmYes well thats all fine and dandy. But last I checked this was a dynasty fantasy football forum...CK_ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:35 amyes thank you, that was exactly where my mind was at when reading this.James McGhee wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:05 am
From a true footballing perspective he probably isn't wrong. From a dynasty value perspective ... Ehh. We might all be singing a different tune a decade from now if those three QBs are the next Brees, Brady and Manning and all of the RBs have already retired due to short shelf life.
Here is a list that is more finely tuned with evaluations of the individual players.
1. Mayfield
2. Guice
3. Barkley
4. K. Johnson
5. J. Washington
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QB: Luck, Mayfield
RB: Elliot, Mixon, Guice, Ekeler
WR: Diggs, C. Davis, Gordon, Lockett, M. Williams, Godwin, John Brown, Tre'Quan Smith
TE: Gronk, Burton, Goedert
K: Gostkowski
D/ST: Jax, Chiefs
QB: Luck, Mayfield
RB: Elliot, Mixon, Guice, Ekeler
WR: Diggs, C. Davis, Gordon, Lockett, M. Williams, Godwin, John Brown, Tre'Quan Smith
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K: Gostkowski
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Re: Top 5 rookies before draft?
Barkley
Chubb
Michel
Guice
Sutton
Chubb
Michel
Guice
Sutton
DONKEY PUNCHERS....12 teams start 1qb, 1rb, 2wr, 1flex rb/wr/te, te, k, d/sp, 0.5ppr, all tds 6pts, 0.1pt run/rec yd, .033pt pass yd, .04 return yd all return tds 6pts, 20 player roster, 1 IR Spot, 2pt bonus all tds over 50yds...
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
QBs Luck, Mayfield
RBs McCaffery, Kerryon, Drake, Breida, Gio
WRs C. Davis, T Boyd, D Hamilton, Kupp, Westbrook, MVS, Callaway
TEs Engram, Graham, Hurst
DEF/SP Bills
K Elliot
Re: Top 5 rookies before draft?
Barkley
Guice/Jones
Michel/Chubb/Penny/Walton
WR may sneak in there if any of these guys don't check out athletically/medically, but for now this is where I'm at.
See a lot of WR2-3 types in this class and I'll take my shot at some RB1 burn since WR2-3 types are relatively easy to find and it may take these rookies 2-3 years to get to that level, if at all.
Guice/Jones
Michel/Chubb/Penny/Walton
WR may sneak in there if any of these guys don't check out athletically/medically, but for now this is where I'm at.
See a lot of WR2-3 types in this class and I'll take my shot at some RB1 burn since WR2-3 types are relatively easy to find and it may take these rookies 2-3 years to get to that level, if at all.
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In Superflex I'm not sure there's a WR in my first round, right now. The 7 RBs above and 4-5 QBs...kind of crazy, but it's the reality of my notes to this point.
Moore is probably my favorite WR, and I'm a Ridley apologist as well. Not sure I get the Sutton love that has him up high. I see an unpredictable development path to ultimately get to a Funchess-level outcome...and I like(d) Funchess. We were able to draft him in R2 his rookie year, right?
Moore is probably my favorite WR, and I'm a Ridley apologist as well. Not sure I get the Sutton love that has him up high. I see an unpredictable development path to ultimately get to a Funchess-level outcome...and I like(d) Funchess. We were able to draft him in R2 his rookie year, right?
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what scare me the most with sutton, all the videos i've seen, he only catch long pass. I don't want another desean jacskon where you have 1 week you are super happy with 25pts and then 3-4 weeks of 3-5 pts. No thanks!DynoScout wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:45 am In Superflex I'm not sure there's a WR in my first round, right now. The 7 RBs above and 4-5 QBs...kind of crazy, but it's the reality of my notes to this point.
Moore is probably my favorite WR, and I'm a Ridley apologist as well. Not sure I get the Sutton love that has him up high. I see an unpredictable development path to ultimately get to a Funchess-level outcome...and I like(d) Funchess. We were able to draft him in R2 his rookie year, right?
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RB: E.Elliott,James Robinson, Chris Carson, L.Fournette, T.Etienne , Tony Pollard,hassan haskins,donta foreman, jaylen warren
WR: Justin Jefferson A.J Brown, M.Thomas, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, skyy moore, romeo doubs, alec pierce Donovan Peoples-Jones, J.Palmer
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RB: J.Taylor, JK Dobbins, N.Harris, N.Hines, G.Edwards, James Cook, J.Ford, Dameon Pierce, P.Strong, D.Foreman (Jermaine Burton Devy)
WR: J.Chase,Garett Wilson , B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, R.Bateman, G.Davis, M.Hardman,J.Palmer,
TE: D.Waller R.Tonyan, B.Jordan, Cameron Brate, Cade Otton, G.Everett
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RB: E.Elliott,James Robinson, Chris Carson, L.Fournette, T.Etienne , Tony Pollard,hassan haskins,donta foreman, jaylen warren
WR: Justin Jefferson A.J Brown, M.Thomas, Marquise Brown, T.Lockett, skyy moore, romeo doubs, alec pierce Donovan Peoples-Jones, J.Palmer
TE: kyle pitts, juwan johnson,mckitty
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QB: J.Herbert, Z.Wilson, K.Cousins, K.Pickett,K.Mond
RB: J.Taylor, JK Dobbins, N.Harris, N.Hines, G.Edwards, James Cook, J.Ford, Dameon Pierce, P.Strong, D.Foreman (Jermaine Burton Devy)
WR: J.Chase,Garett Wilson , B.Aiyuk, C.Sutton, R.Bateman, G.Davis, M.Hardman,J.Palmer,
TE: D.Waller R.Tonyan, B.Jordan, Cameron Brate, Cade Otton, G.Everett
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top 5 for me today
Barkley
Guice
Jones
Sony
chubb
Barkley
Guice
Jones
Sony
chubb
16 teamer
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
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QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
QB T Law, R Wilson
rb- Mixon,pollard, J Hill, conner,
WR-Chase,Lamb,T Hill, R Bateman, C sutton, boyd
Te Kelce, Waller, Fant,Evertt,
1qb,2-3rb,3-5wr,1-2 TE
Full IDP
Team 2 recent rod 16 team SF/TEP(2pt PPR) 1-2 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-5 wrs and 1-2 TE full IDP.
QB A rod, M willis and H Hooker
rb not squat T Bigsby, Chris R, Z evans. J kelly, C patterson, and J mcluaghlin.
WRs chase, J Addison, T McLaurin, C ridgley , A Losivas, M hollins
TE Kelce, D Belligner, T Conklin
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Calvin Ridley's 12.4 career YPC scare the hell out of me. Can anyone tell me really top end WR's that have that low a YPC in college to succeed at the next level? I remember some voicing concern over Treadwell's 11.8 YPC, and to this point it has been validated.
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His QB for the past two years hasn't been able to throw accurately past 8 or so yards. Before that he was a freshman behind Amari.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 am Calvin Ridley's 12.4 career YPC scare the hell out of me. Can anyone tell me really top end WR's that have that low a YPC in college to succeed at the next level? I remember some voicing concern over Treadwell's 11.8 YPC, and to this point it has been validated.
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RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
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QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
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Antonio BrownFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 am Calvin Ridley's 12.4 career YPC scare the hell out of me. Can anyone tell me really top end WR's that have that low a YPC in college to succeed at the next level? I remember some voicing concern over Treadwell's 11.8 YPC, and to this point it has been validated.
Re: Top 5 rookies before draft?
Barkley
Guice
Some combination of
Sutton
Jones
Michel
Chubb
Ridley
And probably two others. Definitely not a clear tier like last year with LF/Davis/Mixon/CMC/Cook
1.3 and 1.4 owners may look to move back. I have the 1.6 and I'm really waiting for the draft to see if I should be moving up or back or sticking
Guice
Some combination of
Sutton
Jones
Michel
Chubb
Ridley
And probably two others. Definitely not a clear tier like last year with LF/Davis/Mixon/CMC/Cook
1.3 and 1.4 owners may look to move back. I have the 1.6 and I'm really waiting for the draft to see if I should be moving up or back or sticking
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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Re: Top 5 rookies before draft?
Interesting. I suppose that's a pretty impressive anomaly.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:34 amAntonio BrownFantasyFreak wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:55 am Calvin Ridley's 12.4 career YPC scare the hell out of me. Can anyone tell me really top end WR's that have that low a YPC in college to succeed at the next level? I remember some voicing concern over Treadwell's 11.8 YPC, and to this point it has been validated.
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I want to applaud this. The prices these picks are getting is atrocious, and if I could get the return I've seen posted in the team advice forum any top 4 pick is a hot sell from me. I plan on shopping my 1.6 after the NFL draft when it should get a bump in value
In my league, out 1.1 owner turned down Kamara and 1.10. Offensive rookie of the year, RB3 overall, plus a late 1st not only offered but then turned down for a guy who we don't even know what team he'll be on. WTF
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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Re: Top 5 rookies before draft?
^^^^ I once want to get one of these offers. In different leagues I have the 1.01, 1.02, 1.03 and 1.04 on the block. I get just turd offers for them. I agree with your statement and hope the fever of the draft and tantalizing landing spots get me some offers. Especially the 1.03 and 4.
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QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
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