Just read that Troy Niklas signed with the Pats. I hadn't seen any discussion on the forum regarding it. Anything to see?
https://clutchpoints.com/patriots-news- ... year-deal/
Gronk Thread: Gronkowski to Tampa Bay!
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Re: Gronk to retire?
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Re: Gronk to retire?
^ it sounded like he no longer finds playing football fun and that he has been walking around with nagging injuries. It’s one thing playing through constant pain when you love the game, but that pain is tough and depressing when you aren’t enjoying what your doing. Kind of like regular work when you like your job long hours fly by and hard work isn’t a problem. When you hate your job the days drag on and you resent any extra hours. Also sounds like a lot of it has to do with disliking the Belichick system and structure.
Re: Gronk to retire?
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/15 ... g-thin.php
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patr ... aring_thin
More Gronk speculation - this time as to why Belichick and Gronk are at odds.
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patr ... aring_thin
More Gronk speculation - this time as to why Belichick and Gronk are at odds.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: Gronk to retire?
I think its mostly just a cheap flier on a guy who is still only 25, came from an offense that didnt utilize the TE much at all, and has had injuries derail what little chance he did have with the Cardinals. Belichick loves a bargain.The Patriots owe Dwayne Allen around 5 mil this season (which the Patriots can clear entirely from their salary cap if they cut Allen), and just signed Niklas for under 1 mil. So almost undoubtedly, this is just a money move.James McGhee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:39 pm Just read that Troy Niklas signed with the Pats. I hadn't seen any discussion on the forum regarding it. Anything to see?
https://clutchpoints.com/patriots-news- ... year-deal/
Now one insane out of the box thought i had was the Patriots just lost their LT, and Niklas was actually recruited to Notre Dame as a OT (ranked as the 24th best OL in the country his senior year of HS). Patriots OL coach once turned a guy who was exclusively a college wrestler into a solid starting OL for about 6 or 7 years. Maybe they bulk Niklas up to about 310, and see if he has any OL chops left. Im not saying he would contribute this season, but as far as fliers go Niklas reviving his career as a OL doesnt seem any more far fetched to me than him ever being a relevant TE.
Re: Gronk to retire?
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Re: Gronk to retire?
That poor horseArrylT wrote: ↑Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:37 pm http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2323 ... orse-gronk
New career path for the Gronk? Jockey?
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2022: 1-8
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QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
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TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
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Re: Gronk to retire?
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WR - Godwin(5), Metcalf(1), Pittman(2), Mingo(5), Boutte(5), Metchie(4), Renfrow(1), Mims(3)
TE - Kelce(1), Pitts(3), Kincaid(5), Njoku(3), Gesicki(5), Thomas[WSH](2)
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QB - Murray, Winston
RB - CEH, Penny, Sanders, Mattison, Wilson
WR - Hill, McLaurin, Jeudy, JuJu, Ridley, Edwards, Ruggs
TE - Goedert, Johnson[NOS]
DL - Young LB - Kirksey, Tranquill, Walker[GB], Walker[ATL] DB - Sneed
Re: Gronk to retire?
And his horse is aiming to make it back (missing the Kentucky Derby) for the Belmont Stakes! 
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The Gronk!!
Would you trade for him?
if so what are you paying?
Still elite prices?
if so what are you paying?
Still elite prices?
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TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
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2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
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TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
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“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
Re: The Gronk!!
Once guys throw the retirement idea in the head of owners, the value will never be the same. Aside from the fact he contemplated retirement,he is a big injury risk. He shouldn’t be getting elite prices. He is elite when he is on the field however, so the value lies somewhere in-between.
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TE: E. Engram, C. Kmet, C. Herndon, K. Warring
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Re: The Gronk!!
Not sure where his value is, I offered Winston/Engram for Ryan/Gronk/2019 1st in a Superflex/TE Premium and got rejected and I might be happy it did
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TE: Andrews/Hurst
QB/2RB/3WR/TE/Flex
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RB: Mixon/Chubb/Mostert/Burkhead/McKinnon
WR: Wilson/JuJu/Marquise/Mooney/Campbell/Dotson/Osborn/Julio/Tolbert/Shakir/Metchie
TE: Andrews/Hurst
Re: The Gronk!!
Yea, im trying to gauge his value, I am as well nervous of the retirement talks, but lets say the guys plays 2-3 more years. is he worth it?
Guy in my league is looking to move his patriots, he might be one guy I would want to upgrade over Jack Doyle
Guy in my league is looking to move his patriots, he might be one guy I would want to upgrade over Jack Doyle
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR
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QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
Re: The Gronk!!
His value is like Devin Funchess level to me.
Re: The Gronk!!
If you are a contender, he is a top 3 TE with a limited window. If you are rebuilding you probably aren’t interested. It’s team dependent. He’s like Brady in QBs, McCoy in the RBs, Fitzgerald in WRs...they are number 1s and possible league winners, but because of the age they are absolutely valueless to a contingent of owners.
On a side note, Now is the time to strike if you are buying Gronk, or any of the type of players listed. If you are selling, u are likely better waiting till inseason to get a better deal.
On a side note, Now is the time to strike if you are buying Gronk, or any of the type of players listed. If you are selling, u are likely better waiting till inseason to get a better deal.
Re: The Gronk!!
That's disgusting...
I bought Gronk with a 2019 1st. I wouldn't pay an elite price, but I'm not giving up that pick for a guy like Funchess.
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