Intentional Tanking

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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby TheTroll » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:31 am

SCYCPA wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:48 pm A penalty a month and a half after the season ends? That's bullshit. commish should have been on top of this earlier, warned him and given him a chance to rectify it.
Should be no penalty for this at all if it comes up this far after the season ended.

I agree with this if it happened this way. I can see someone forgoing a kicker on a bye for one week (due to roster limitations, but he was obviously not engaged. Kick him out or whatever but he paid $ for this season, he chose to hand it over w/o competing. No matter what his draft pick this season he will have donated $ to the rest of the owners.
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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby Quinty » Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:37 pm

SCYCPA wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:48 pm A penalty a month and a half after the season ends? That's bullshit. commish should have been on top of this earlier, warned him and given him a chance to rectify it.
Should be no penalty for this at all if it comes up this far after the season ended.
LOL. There's no statute of limitations. Not to mention, screw him for tanking and any of you for implying that it's ok to cheat/tank if it isn't caught in time.

From the OP:
Turns out he was putting in players on bye starting in week 5
If someone needs to be told to submit a valid lineup, then that person is in the wrong hobby. His team, his responsibility. If he's really having problems setting a lineup, then he needs to alert the commish or post on the league message board. Not noticing for at least 8 weeks, while subbing in players on a bye each week, and then 'fixing' the problem to win the 1.13 screams of bullshit to me.

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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby skip » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:41 pm

SCYCPA wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 6:48 pm A penalty a month and a half after the season ends? That's bullshit. commish should have been on top of this earlier, warned him and given him a chance to rectify it.
Should be no penalty for this at all if it comes up this far after the season ended.
So your philosophy is he should be allowed to get away with it because it wasn't caught sooner? Can't agree with that. Quite the opposite. The many weeks of deliberate tanking gives a clear motive.
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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby briank » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:31 am

jp67 wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:46 pm Long Story Short:

Am owner contacted the commish that one of the owners in a league looked like he was tanking. Owner in question fininsed in last place.

Commish posted the accusation and his findings on Thursday night

Commish took a look and decided it looked really bad (league rule is you tank you get kicked out). Owner is claiming he use his phone and did not become aware of the problems until the week 14 loser bracket playoff that he won and gets pick 1.13.

I was at the Mall (bored) so I started looking at them team in questions decisions and results.

Turns out he was putting in players on bye starting in week 5 (he played me and should have beat me had he played a kicker).
Week 6 he started Diggs who was out
Week 7 he started Diggs again--Fournette out---Wull Fuller bye
Week 8 Four Starters took Zero
Week 9 Five Starters took Zero
Week 10 Fournette and Gronk were benched
Week 11 Fournette and Gronk on the pine (with three zeros)
Week 12 Fournette, Gronk, Bulkhead Jamal Williams (with three Zeros)
Week 13 Fournette, Gronk, Bulkhead Jamal Williams (with three Zeros)

According to him it was week 14 and he realizes his app was not working and he starts to play all his good players.
He crushed his opponet in week 14 and 16.

Commish has decide he should move back to the third spot in the draft. My opinion is if he wants to stay in the league he should his first round pick. Had he played his obvious starters different teams would have gone to the playoffs.
I made the playoffs had he played his team (started a full team) I would not have made the playoffs.

Thoughts on this?
Follow the league rules, kick him out.
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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby jp67 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:25 am

Update:

The offending owner has left the league. He was upset that he was losing the 1.1. I received an e mail from the commish asking me to stay. Long story short I am leaving.

Lesson: tt is everyone's job to make sure the league is competitive.The Commsh should have caught it but the rest of us (the owners he was playing against when he was missing starters) should have noticed.
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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby darewood11 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:29 am

If you field an incomplete roster more than 2 weeks you ahould be gone in my opinion

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Re: Intentional Tanking

Postby Goddard » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:09 am

First, I hope there are rules set in place in the bylaws for stuff like this.

Second, your commish, and maybe even the rest of the league has as much blame for not catching this during the season...I don't see how something like this goes unnoticed for so long.

Third, even with what I said in the second statement, I would definitely take away his first like you guys ended up doing, and maybe even more.

Fourth, I'm glad he decided to leave the league.


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