Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:31 am

Madadamus wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:01 pm Kerryon Johnson at 34 is crazy low, he’ll be a 1st round pick in most drafts. Freeman is pretty low too.
I have seen him fairly low in small RB rankings around the internet. This is super preliminary, although, I am not a huge fan of his game. His combine could improve his stock but he is an upright runner that I don't think is that gifted, but I can see why people like him. For me I hope he does go in the first round that would be a player off the board I have zero interest in.
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12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:32 am

IBall2 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:16 pm 23 - Allen Lazard... Not Adam. But I think this guy is flying under the radar, he should have came out last year but has been a steady producer his entire career at Iowa State.
Good catch, I have a friend named Adam Liard and always say Adam instead of Allen for Allen Lazard. Thank you.
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:34 am

nathanq42 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:14 pm Thanks for doing this! I generally like the list :) I can't wait for the I think it's vcsise (sp.) ADP stuff, and DLF ADP stuff. I also can't wait for the combine, draft and FA so I can cement my rankings
Ya, I found this extremely difficult to do. So many guys I just couldn't figure out where to put them. Can't wait to see how the ADP's start to form in the coming months.
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:40 am

Vcize wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:42 pm Thanks for sharing! Where would you have had Harris and Love if they'd declared?
I love Harris and I really like Love. I would put Love at #4 and then Harris Right after that. With that being said, I like Harris more than Love but I think Love is drafted first, which is fine by me, I am all about Harris next year and want him to be passed up by guys like Love.

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2 Darius Guice
3 Cortland Sutton
4 Bryce Love
5 Damien Harris
6 Sony Michel
7 Nick Chubb
8 Ronald Jones II
9 Calvin Ridley
10 James Washington
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:50 am

cazzie33 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:45 pm
IBall2 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 2:16 pm 23 - Allen Lazard... Not Adam. But I think this guy is flying under the radar, he should have came out last year but has been a steady producer his entire career at Iowa State.
Not saying the guy is a stiff or slow going downfield but in the summertime in Ames he made money renting himself out as a scarecrow. :surprised: In his defense that's a profitable occupation there. He has no future scaring any NFL defense
He is not the most fluid WR you will find but he has premier hands. I think he have some of the best hands in this draft class and last years draft class. May not beat people in the open field but in the redzone and intermediate and crossing routes this guy can be a possession monster.
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Weber27 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 am

schiewerma21 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:19 pm James Washington boggles my mind? What is his best case? Djax? Best case? actually produces once in 3 weeks? I would never burn a first on that guy.
I am 100% up in the air when it comes to James Washington. His production is excellent and his 20.9 yards per catch is ridiculous (19.4 in 2016, and 20.5 in 2015 all of those season catching over 50 balls :shock: ) Compare that to the top WR last year Corey Davis who had huge production was only 15.5, 16.1 and 18.1, though he was catching 70, 80 and 90 balls. So Washington has the stat lines and production on the field but when I watch his tape I am so undecided on what he is. Not sure what to think of him. Anyone have any insight on James Washington.
New Mexico Maulers 2019 Champion
12-Team, SF, PPR, TEP, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, 2 Flex, 1 SF
QB: Mahomes, Dak, D. Jones, R. Wilson, Stidham
RB: JT, CMC, Breece, R. White, Izz A, L. Murray, McKinnon, LF, Ahmed, Moss
WR: AJB, Sutton, Jeudy, Addison, London, Godwin, Hardman,
TE: Andrews, Friermuth, Ferguson, , Tremble

Draft Picks:
|2024| 1st, 2nd, 4th
|2025| 1, 2, 4, 5

Rocky Mountain Ramblers 2022 Champion
12 Team, SF, PPR, 30 player roster, 5 Rd Rookie Draft | Starters: QB, 2RB, 2WR, TE, Flex, SF
QB: Lamar, TLaw, Dak, Darnold, M. White
RB: CMC, JT, Breece, LF, L. Murray, Ahmed, Mcglauglin, Moss, Mitchell
WR: AJB, Lamb, G. Wilson, DJM, Hopkins, Jeudy, Burks, Kirk,
TE: Pitts, Freiermuth, Dulcich, Jonnu, Johnson
]Draft Picks:
|2024| - 1st, 5th
|2025| 1, 4, 5

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Valhalla74 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:39 pm

Weber27 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 am
schiewerma21 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:19 pm James Washington boggles my mind? What is his best case? Djax? Best case? actually produces once in 3 weeks? I would never burn a first on that guy.
I am 100% up in the air when it comes to James Washington. His production is excellent and his 20.9 yards per catch is ridiculous (19.4 in 2016, and 20.5 in 2015 all of those season catching over 50 balls :shock: ) Compare that to the top WR last year Corey Davis who had huge production was only 15.5, 16.1 and 18.1, though he was catching 70, 80 and 90 balls. So Washington has the stat lines and production on the field but when I watch his tape I am so undecided on what he is. Not sure what to think of him. Anyone have any insight on James Washington.
Not only does he have excellent hands and ball control, when you see him get in the open and he has a foot race, he has that extra gear that makes certain players special. It's almost as he's gliding. Which is surprising, because he has a little thicker torso. What I have no idea about though, and will have to do some further analysis is his route running, and where he ends up of course. So far, I like what I see on him though.

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby whaley88 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:46 pm

Not so sure about his route tree but he does have good technique on breaking the jam and also stacking the defender.

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby Cult of Dionysus » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:09 pm

Just watched a couple of highlight videos of Lazard... he ain't slow. I'm not saying he's a 4.40 guy, but he ain't slow. Watch when he catches one in the open field, he does have decent top speed. And he moves good with the ball in his hands when he has space... again, not saying he moves like Odell, but for a big guy, he moves very well.

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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby kris_kapsner » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:58 pm

Weber27 wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2018 5:01 am
schiewerma21 wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:19 pm James Washington boggles my mind? What is his best case? Djax? Best case? actually produces once in 3 weeks? I would never burn a first on that guy.
I am 100% up in the air when it comes to James Washington. His production is excellent and his 20.9 yards per catch is ridiculous (19.4 in 2016, and 20.5 in 2015 all of those season catching over 50 balls :shock: ) Compare that to the top WR last year Corey Davis who had huge production was only 15.5, 16.1 and 18.1, though he was catching 70, 80 and 90 balls. So Washington has the stat lines and production on the field but when I watch his tape I am so undecided on what he is. Not sure what to think of him. Anyone have any insight on James Washington.
He's the 2nd WR on my board and may end up being the best WR in this class. He reminds me of Anquan Boldin...only a little faster actually. Only time will tell if he becomes a WR anywhere near Boldin. That's not easy to do. But, he certainly reminds me of Boldin when I watch him.
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Re: Way too early Rookie Rankings - Top 36 players

Postby nathanq42 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:41 pm

If college production and breakout age are two of the biggest factors of a WRs success in the NFL I don't see how Washington can't be high on your list, I know he is high on mine
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