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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:19 pm

KingsKing wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:07 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:27 pm Different angle to this-

I offered 3.6 in exchange for Cam Meredith, Spencer Ware and Torrey Smith.

He rejected with a "wow seriously?" Figured it was 2-3 roster clogger in a 12x26 league for a shot at a higher upside option. He didn't see it that way at all.
That’s a horrible offer
If that's the case, so be it. Not gonna pretend I only receive "horrible" offers and don't send them.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby hjernazian » Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:19 pm
KingsKing wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:07 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:27 pm Different angle to this-

I offered 3.6 in exchange for Cam Meredith, Spencer Ware and Torrey Smith.

He rejected with a "wow seriously?" Figured it was 2-3 roster clogger in a 12x26 league for a shot at a higher upside option. He didn't see it that way at all.
That’s a horrible offer
If that's the case, so be it. Not gonna pretend I only receive "horrible" offers and don't send them.
I'm there with you, but it doesn't justify making horrible offers yourself, and I'll admit, I've done it myself before. I think what you were maybe doing here is hoping he didn't catch Cam Meredith was part of the deal by including Ware and Smith. But even still, C. Meredith alone is worth at leas an early second.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Pullo Vision » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:48 am

hjernazian wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:03 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:19 pm
KingsKing wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:07 pm
That’s a horrible offer
If that's the case, so be it. Not gonna pretend I only receive "horrible" offers and don't send them.
I'm there with you, but it doesn't justify making horrible offers yourself, and I'll admit, I've done it myself before. I think what you were maybe doing here is hoping he didn't catch Cam Meredith was part of the deal by including Ware and Smith. But even still, C. Meredith alone is worth at leas an early second.
Justify? Hardly. Just gotta understand that the trade that makes sense to you if you had the other roster may not make sense to the roster's actual owner.

In this case, I was offering a pick for a handcuff, a WR role player and an undrafted FA who had half a good season then was lost his next season with an injury. He has since been passed on the depth chart with a FA signing. I was upfront in explaining my view on the offer, so I wasn't trying to sneak buy Meredith.

We had a fruitful conversation where we discussed alternatives and counters, but the real hang up wasn't Meredith but Ware and Torrey. He thought they had real value, while I see them as roster cloggers .

I'm just happy I found someone who likes Meredith more than me. I might actually consider selling if I could get an early 2nd.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
1 DT, 2 DE, 2 LB, 1 CB, 1 S, 1 flex

League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def

League #3- 12 tm PPR, 1Q, 0R (yes, ZERO RB) 3W, 1T, 2 R/W/T flex, 1 Def

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby fakespike13 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:08 pm

Someone offered me Mahomes and 1.09 for Alvin Kamara. 1qb league, not super flex or 2qb. Riiiiight.
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16 team PPR, 20 man rosters + 10 player taxi, QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 RB/WR, TE, D, K

QB: Wilson, Mayfield, Lance, Hill
RB: Kamara, Cook, Ekeler, CEH, Akers, Mattison, Ty Johnson, Funk, Nwangwu
WR: Tyreek, McLaurin, Diontae Johnson, Aiyuk, Golladay, Chark, Edwards, Shenault, Palmer, Dyami
TE: Kittle, Thomas

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QB: Prescott, Watson, Minshew, D Jones, Newton
RB: Swift, J Williams, Akers, Cordarrelle, Mitchell
WR: Waddle, E Moore, Claypool, Patterson, R Moore, Bourne, Callaway, Treadwell
TE: Goedert, Shultz, Tonyan, Moreau, Parham

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby saw061600 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:00 pm

Give: 1.04, Evans, Ebron
Get: JHoward, Dak, Fleener
Ewww
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby pvillebiker » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:25 am

Got this gem in today. At least he threw in the (late) 2nd!

I give:
Williams, Jamaal GBP RB
Hopkins, DeAndre HOU WR

I get:
Coleman, Tevin ATL RB
Foreman, D'Onta HOU RB
Perine, Samaje WAS RB
Hooper, Austin ATL TE
Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.12
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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby pvillebiker » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:27 am

saw061600 wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:00 pm Give: 1.04, Evans, Ebron
Get: JHoward, Dak, Fleener
Ewww
Evans > 1.04 + J Howard

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby saw061600 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:23 pm

pvillebiker wrote: Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:27 am
saw061600 wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:00 pm Give: 1.04, Evans, Ebron
Get: JHoward, Dak, Fleener
Ewww
Evans > 1.04 + J Howard
1QB league too. Overvalues QBs in the format.
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby IR1 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:57 am

Send Nuk
Receive Suh

not sure if that was real or if he was offended when I offered Agholor plus for Suh
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Bad News Barrett » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:44 am

Give 1.07, Mike Evans
Get 1.03
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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby lawilt » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:12 pm

32 team single copy

Give: Fournett, Gronk, Deion Jones (top 12 in overall scoring in this format), 2 1sts

Get: OBJ

Doesn't seem like he's looking to really sell him

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby myndflyte » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm

Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Bad News Barrett » Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:30 pm

myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
That’s the going rate. If it’s a Superflex league, that’s a very good deal. If it’s a 1 qb league, it’s the norm

Far from a terrible offer
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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby myndflyte » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:18 pm

Bad News Barrett wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:30 pm
myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
That’s the going rate. If it’s a Superflex league, that’s a very good deal. If it’s a 1 qb league, it’s the norm

Far from a terrible offer
Are we talking about 2018 rookie picks? Now that I reread, I can see how it's probably assumed as startup picks which then I would agree is a fair offer.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Bad News Barrett » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:22 pm

myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:18 pm
Bad News Barrett wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:30 pm
myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
That’s the going rate. If it’s a Superflex league, that’s a very good deal. If it’s a 1 qb league, it’s the norm

Far from a terrible offer
Are we talking about 2018 rookie picks? Now that I reread, I can see how it's probably assumed as startup picks which then I would agree is a fair offer.
No I assumed rookie picks. An early 2nd round pick usually will trade for a 1st next year. That’s the going rate, in nearly any dynasty league. Those trades usually happen during a draft though, as someone’s target is sliding that they had a 1st round grade on
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