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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby lawilt » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:32 am

myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
If you're a contending team it's probably a pretty good deal with the depth in this years class depending on how your rookie tiers look

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby myndflyte » Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:51 am

Bad News Barrett wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:22 pm
myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:18 pm
Bad News Barrett wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:30 pm

That’s the going rate. If it’s a Superflex league, that’s a very good deal. If it’s a 1 qb league, it’s the norm

Far from a terrible offer
Are we talking about 2018 rookie picks? Now that I reread, I can see how it's probably assumed as startup picks which then I would agree is a fair offer.
No I assumed rookie picks. An early 2nd round pick usually will trade for a 1st next year. That’s the going rate, in nearly any dynasty league. Those trades usually happen during a draft though, as someone’s target is sliding that they had a 1st round grade on
I guess now that I look at it from that side if during the draft I wanted an early 2nd this seems like a fair trade. This is my first rookie draft this year so I'm sure I'll see something like this during the draft.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:18 pm

I sent an offer

Give: Evans
Get: 1.01 (Barkley)

Was countered
Give: Evans, Zeke

Get: 1.01,1.14, Sammy Watkins

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby myndflyte » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 pm

Give: Cooper + 2.07 +2.11
Get: Blount + Taylor Gabriel ± 2019 3rd

I may have misjudged the pick offer previously, but I'm pretty sure I'm right this time on this one being bad.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby bjd5211 » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:17 pm

myndflyte wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 pm Give: Cooper + 2.07 +2.11
Get: Blount + Taylor Gabriel ± 2019 3rd

I may have misjudged the pick offer previously, but I'm pretty sure I'm right this time on this one being bad.
Ya definitely, even without the picks on your end it's not close for me.

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Igwebuike 4 Prez » Thu Apr 05, 2018 1:59 am

Give: Mark Ingram
Get: Kevin White and 2.11

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby IR1 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:22 am

Owner trying to by Cooks post trade low, idp heavy league
1- give Cooks
get Grady Jarrett

2- give Cooks
get Mario Addison
10Team PPR-QB/RB/WR/WR/TE/PK/flex-DT/DE/DE/LB/LB/LB/CB/CB/S/S/flex
QB- Herbert, Tua
RB- Barkley, Swift, Montgomery, Dobbins, Walker
WR-Adams, ARSB, JWilliams, Godwin, Metcalf, Allen, Kirk, Flowers
TE- Kelce, Goedert
PK
DT- Buckner, Simmons, QWilliams,
DE- Hunter, JBosa, Thibodeaux, JPHillips, Rousseau, Paye, Greenard
LB- Edmunds, Warner, E Kendricks, Wagner, De"Vondre Campbell, Asamoah, Sanders
CB- Moore, Howard, Reed
S- Dugger, Pitre, Thompson
IR Dobbins, Dulcich
Taxi- Kincaid, QJohnston

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Mephistopheles » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:56 pm

myndflyte wrote: Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:48 pm Give: Cooper + 2.07 +2.11
Get: Blount + Taylor Gabriel ± 2019 3rd

I may have misjudged the pick offer previously, but I'm pretty sure I'm right this time on this one being bad.
Been playing this game a long time (my oldest dynasty league is in its 20th year in 2018), and I, for the life of me, will never understand why people send offers like this. This makes zero sense on any level.
PSA - Haggling is NOT the same as negotiating.

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby freddog97 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:42 pm

Give: Brandin Cooks+2019 1st

Get: Cam Newton

1QB LEAGUE...
20 team(2 copy) superflex Devy PPR(.5 RB, 1WR, 1.5TE) .25PPC
QBs: Lawrence, Darnold
RBs: Swift, Walker III, Pierce, Allgeier
WRs: Lamb, Higgins, Jeudy, Wilson(NYJ), Olave, Flowers, Cooks, Davis, Doubs
TE: Engram Kincaid Kmet Schoonmaker
Devy: Marvin Harrison Jr
2024: 1st 2nd 3rd 4th

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Blackout » Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Was enquiring about 2.02 in my 16 team PPR dynasty. I've already 2.07, 2.09, 2.11, 2.13 so i was like "owning more than 30% of the second round could be fun" in my mind.

This pick was not available for a classic exchange but a trade up/trade down. He is very light at WR and it's a new owner who took over after a mess of management by the ex-owner. Worst team of the dynasty.

I understand the desire and need to change things. His WR are Robby, Ginn, Garçon, Lee, Westbrook, K.Wright, T.Williams and Grant. Maybe Robby charges dropped since have made him think twice about my offer which was Amendola, Pryor and 2.13 for his 2.02. Admit it's not WR people want (he well said he has some WR with this same limited or uncertain level) and could easily revise my offer. But...after 5-6 days off in talks due to Easter, he finally came back to me to make this counter-offer...

Could it work ? Juju, 2.7 and Schobert for 2.2 and...Terrance.

I really thought immediately and with the circumstance it was a slightly offset April fool's Day...

No need to say it was an instant reject. Even without Juju in, i would have not done it. Contrast between Schobert who could be an well established top 15 LB for years to come and Terrance Williams who is absolutely worthless...Ugh.It's much more that a question of valuing players here, it's an ambush or a lack of experience from him. If i accept this, i could be this owner replacement in the power rankings with a dead team for the future. As much leave the dynasty.

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby DonBrazi » Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:43 am

Blackout wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:07 pm Amendola, Pryor and 2.13 for his 2.02.

Juju, 2.7 and Schobert for 2.2 and...Terrance.
Both of those are ugly insta-rejects, if you ask me..

But a bad one that I got recently: 12-team SF... my Evans/Funchess/2.02 for his Marvin/1.8
IRL 12Team 28man 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1Flex, 1Superflex: PPR w/ small TE-Premium
Dak, Murray, Wentz, Darnold, Fitzpatrick
CEH, Gibson, Sanders, Javonte, Moss, Nwangwu
ARob, Sutton, ODB, Parker, Ruggs, Miller, Boykin
Waller, Hockenson, Pitts, OJH, Trautman, Gesicki, Everett
2022 1st (2), 2nd, 3rd, 4th

War Room 12Team 28man: 1QB, 1RB, 1WR, 1TE, 4Flex, 1Superflex: .5/1/1.5 Tiered-PPR, 1-Round Devy league
Dak, Murray, LJax, *Rattler
Etienne, AJD, Hubbard, Stevenson, Hawkins, *Spiller
Sutton, ODB, Jeudy, Reagor, Shenault, Rodgers, Kirk, Boykin, *G.Wilson
Hockenson, Jonnu, Firkser, Asiasi
2022 1st (2), 2nd, 3rd, *Devy 4th (2)

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Blackout » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:18 am

DonBrazi wrote: Sat Apr 07, 2018 8:43 am
Blackout wrote: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:07 pm Amendola, Pryor and 2.13 for his 2.02.

Juju, 2.7 and Schobert for 2.2 and...Terrance.
Both of those are ugly insta-rejects, if you ask me..

But a bad one that I got recently: 12-team SF... my Evans/Funchess/2.02 for his Marvin/1.8
Really ? There is nothing comparable here for me. Amendola & Pryor maybe close the gap in the 2.05-2.06 zone but it's not a bad starting offer to climb from 2.13 to 2.02. Plus we are in a 16-team. 2.02 is the 18th choice. Don't think there will so much value already here. Just a bit more than my 29th choice finally...I agree Juju is an extremely ugly one for sure.

Thanks for your feedback anyway. I can see again the "gap" between some of people assessments...maybe depending on leagues like i said. For this reason i chose to play in american leagues. That should be a great experience :thumbup:

I don't like Mike "you won't see more overrated than me" Evans but it's an instant reject. I see Marvin/1.8 as equal with Funchess/2.2. Give me Evans for free any day. That's crazy. Maybe i would love him if i acquire his services in that way... :)

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby Phaded » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:56 am

Give: Dalvin Cook & Antonio Brown
Get: Jerick McKinnon, Josh Gordon & Jordan Matthews

*sigh*

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby FiremanEd » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:15 am

Mike Evans + Davante Adams + Tevin Coleman
For
Kareem Hunt + Kearse + Hurns

Was told I over value my players when I said the offer wasn’t close.

Same owner has offered Garcon for 1.06 and Hurns for 1.09 while attempting to justify it. He’s quite painful.

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Re: For Fun - Worst Trade offers of 2018

Postby mlynarcm » Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:55 am

myndflyte wrote: Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:54 pm Got this gem today
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2.03 and 3.09

How could I refuse?
Someone from my league must have read this thread. I got pretty much the same offer.
Give: 2019 1st
Get: 2018 2.02 and 3.12

I declined especially because I have four 1sts this year and I already dont know if I have that many people that I want to cut.
Team 1
12 team league, PPR
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: D. Prescott, K. Cousins,
RB: D. Cook, M. Gordon, T. Cohen, D. Guice, R. Penny J. Mckinnon, L. Murray, C. Edmonds, D. Harris
WR: O. Beckham, D. Adams, K. Allen, J. Edleman, O. Johnson
TE: E. Ebron, G. Kittle

Team 2
Start 1QB, 1-3RBs, 1-3WRs, 1 TE
QB: Mayfield, Winston,
RB: D. Cook, N. Chubb, K. Johnson, G. Bernard, N. Hines
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, A. Brown D. Funchess, Z. Jones, D. Moncrief, M Bryant
TE: G. Kittle, E. Ebron, R.Gronkowski


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