What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

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What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby zoster80 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:17 pm

Will any of these guys have a WR2 ( or better) type year next in 2018?

J Doctson
Treadwell
C Coleman
C Godwin
H Maclin
D Parker
Shepard
Robbie Anderson
Fuller
Zay Jones
J Matthews
M Williams
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Concept Coop » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:25 pm

I'd say everyone but Treadwell and Matthews has a shot, but I'd take the under on most of them.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby jman3134 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:42 pm

Why not Matthews? We don't know where he is playing yet.
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Goddard » Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:45 pm

I'm sure there will be a couple from that list, but I'd have a hard time making an argument for any of them right now. I guess maybe Anderson since he's really the only one that produced at that level this past year. There are plenty of other names on there that I like, just not sure next year will be the year. Lots of WR3s though.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Concept Coop » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:03 pm

jman3134 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:42 pm Why not Matthews? We don't know where he is playing yet.
Fair enough. I see very few landing spots that would give him a realistic shot, but I suppose it could happen.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Concept Coop » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:04 pm

Goddard wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:45 pm I'm sure there will be a couple from that list, but I'd have a hard time making an argument for any of them right now. I guess maybe Anderson since he's really the only one that produced at that level this past year. There are plenty of other names on there that I like, just not sure next year will be the year. Lots of WR3s though.
If I had to pick one, Robby would be my pick as well.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Phaded » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:56 pm

I do not own any of these guys but Fuller is the one that intrigues me. Watson loved going to him and Hopkins will sury garner more double teams with the year he had.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby C_n_red_again » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:12 pm

Got a good feeling about Goodwin myself. Looked pretty strong the last quarter of the year
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby stoneghost28 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:15 pm

zoster80 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:17 pm Will any of these guys have a WR2 ( or better) type year next in 2018?
J Doctson <WR2
As a redskins fan I'm pretty alarmed. I was a big supporter two years ago. Great metrics, good tape, even the reception perception guy loved in. But the intervening two years haven't gone well. Injuries derailed his rookie year (a bad sign historically), in his second year he didn't produce great #'s, dropped quite a few balls, wasn't terribly efficient and that's being kind, and basically, as some redskins fans have joked, looked like a poor man's 50/50 (a joking reference to Rod Gardner for the old timers amongst you).

Treadwell <WR2
He's screwed barring an injury. I own a couple of shares, and didn't sell because there was no point, a mid to late 2nd a year ago has a hit rate below 25-27%, and the chances of Treadwell busting are HUGE, but were they 73-75% last summer? I would have said that's a bit high. I just think there's a better chance of Treadwell eventually turning into something, than a random high 3rd rounder or low 2nd becoming something (the odds of which are somewhere between about 10% and 22%). But I don't expect good news in 2018. Thielan has cemented his role, Diggs when healthy is a stud. At best, Treadwell will get snaps as a WR3 or WR4 option in the offense, which for me, barring a series of injuries similar to what hit the Giants this year, would equate to probably 30-45 targets in 2018, or 15-25 catches. It's not happening till '19-'21 at the earliest, a long time to hold, but that's where we are.

C Coleman WR2>
If he can stay healthy, a huge IF, I don't know if he can become a WR2, but I think it would be reasonable to argue that WR20 to WR30 overall could be the result. I think he's fully capable of producing a 60-900-7 year next year if he's healthy, maybe better, maybe worse. Not sure what that gets you, but I think he's worth investing in.

C Godwin WR2>
If Jackson is gone, Godwin is going to produce. WR2 might be a stretch, but you'll be happy you own him?

H Maclin <WR2
I'm assuming you mean Jeremy.

D Parker <WR2
I think he'll improve, but I think the ship has sailed, for now, on him being an elite WR. He needs a new team and a better QB and better coach and even that might not get it done.

Shepard <WR2
Nope. I'm not buying. He looks like a classic 45-65 catch guy for 650-800 yards when healthy. Not a legit stud.

Robbie Anderson <WR2
Don't know how much of this was about McCown and the dearth of other options. They have Enunwa coming back (is he a FA?).

Fuller: <WR2

IF he's healthy, he looks like a 55-60 for 950 and 6 TD's type guy, he's worth stealing in a trade if you can.

Zay Jones <WR2
Don't believe in the talent, the offense or the lack of any QB worth a damn on the roster.

J Matthews <WR2
Went dumpster diving in two dynasty leagues for him this offseason. Was kinda shocked to get him for just bidding bucks but I'm hearing he's valued as a 3rd round rookie pick right now. I'd pay that. He's a FA this offseason and I can't see him sticking around in that dumpster fire of an offense. If he can stay healthy, I think he can bounce back, and am willing to bet on him, but WR2 is way too rich. I'm just hoping he can climb inside the top 40.

M Williams <WR2
No. He missed the bulk of his rookie year. He'll be learning in 2018, and they have a ton of pass catching options on that offense. I'd expect him to grab 35-45 passes if he can stay healthy.

Sanu <WR2

Nope. He's not a special talent.

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby trc » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:14 am

zoster80 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:17 pm Will any of these guys have a WR2 ( or better) type year next in 2018?
Yes.

Who do you think?

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby TheChicken » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:01 am

Unlikely to happen, but I can see Matthews replacing Landry in Miami and putting up WR2 numbers.

Anderson was also productive with Petty two seasons back, so McCown was not the only reason for his production this season.

Basically I am not rostering any of these players to start from week 1 .... All could be useful Flex/Bye week players with starter upside.
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:59 pm

A few of these guys have potential to be WR2... Robbie, Coleman, Fuller.
But a lot are WR3 types... Parker, Shepard, Godwin.
Some aren't worth holding much hope for. IMO maclin, matthews, Sanu, tread

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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:22 am

most interested in Fuller, Parker, Doctson...still not big on Anderson but thats probably only to my own detriment as he has been solid

no interest at all in maclin, j matt, sanu, treadwell (maybe i would hold and hope since he is still starting in 3 WR sets so hes not totally losing the faith of coaches)

i think Fuller has massive potential with watson but needs to bulk up or something, stay on the dang field...same with parker, also didnt like that he didnt click with his qb aside from a few bright spots early, meanwhile landry did fine and scored more than usual.

Docston has 1 year experience and got heavy snaps so im holding out hope he takes the leap in 2018.

I know nothing about anderson and havent studied him much but hes a top 20 WR so i see him staying a wr2 unless they have no qb to throw him the ball next year
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:26 am

stoneghost28 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:15 pm
zoster80 wrote: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:17 pm Will any of these guys have a WR2 ( or better) type year next in 2018?
J Doctson <WR2
As a redskins fan I'm pretty alarmed. I was a big supporter two years ago. Great metrics, good tape, even the reception perception guy loved in. But the intervening two years haven't gone well. Injuries derailed his rookie year (a bad sign historically), in his second year he didn't produce great #'s, dropped quite a few balls, wasn't terribly efficient and that's being kind, and basically, as some redskins fans have joked, looked like a poor man's 50/50 (a joking reference to Rod Gardner for the old timers amongst you).

Treadwell <WR2
He's screwed barring an injury. I own a couple of shares, and didn't sell because there was no point, a mid to late 2nd a year ago has a hit rate below 25-27%, and the chances of Treadwell busting are HUGE, but were they 73-75% last summer? I would have said that's a bit high. I just think there's a better chance of Treadwell eventually turning into something, than a random high 3rd rounder or low 2nd becoming something (the odds of which are somewhere between about 10% and 22%). But I don't expect good news in 2018. Thielan has cemented his role, Diggs when healthy is a stud. At best, Treadwell will get snaps as a WR3 or WR4 option in the offense, which for me, barring a series of injuries similar to what hit the Giants this year, would equate to probably 30-45 targets in 2018, or 15-25 catches. It's not happening till '19-'21 at the earliest, a long time to hold, but that's where we are.

C Coleman WR2>
If he can stay healthy, a huge IF, I don't know if he can become a WR2, but I think it would be reasonable to argue that WR20 to WR30 overall could be the result. I think he's fully capable of producing a 60-900-7 year next year if he's healthy, maybe better, maybe worse. Not sure what that gets you, but I think he's worth investing in.

C Godwin WR2>
If Jackson is gone, Godwin is going to produce. WR2 might be a stretch, but you'll be happy you own him?

H Maclin <WR2
I'm assuming you mean Jeremy.

D Parker <WR2
I think he'll improve, but I think the ship has sailed, for now, on him being an elite WR. He needs a new team and a better QB and better coach and even that might not get it done.

Shepard <WR2
Nope. I'm not buying. He looks like a classic 45-65 catch guy for 650-800 yards when healthy. Not a legit stud.

Robbie Anderson <WR2
Don't know how much of this was about McCown and the dearth of other options. They have Enunwa coming back (is he a FA?).

Fuller: <WR2

IF he's healthy, he looks like a 55-60 for 950 and 6 TD's type guy, he's worth stealing in a trade if you can.

Zay Jones <WR2
Don't believe in the talent, the offense or the lack of any QB worth a damn on the roster.

J Matthews <WR2
Went dumpster diving in two dynasty leagues for him this offseason. Was kinda shocked to get him for just bidding bucks but I'm hearing he's valued as a 3rd round rookie pick right now. I'd pay that. He's a FA this offseason and I can't see him sticking around in that dumpster fire of an offense. If he can stay healthy, I think he can bounce back, and am willing to bet on him, but WR2 is way too rich. I'm just hoping he can climb inside the top 40.

M Williams <WR2
No. He missed the bulk of his rookie year. He'll be learning in 2018, and they have a ton of pass catching options on that offense. I'd expect him to grab 35-45 passes if he can stay healthy.

Sanu <WR2

Nope. He's not a special talent.
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Re: What type of season will the following WR's have next year?

Postby ArrylT » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:33 am

Btw here is a fun fluff piece about Laquon Treadwell:

http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/T ... ecce59e0e2
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