Revisiting the Coogan Thread

[GridironGuerilla]

Looks like the mods deleted the thread on Coogan, but as I was thrown under the bus by him I had something to say and just as I posted it the thread was gone. Figured I would post it here for anybody who had a chance to glance at it. I'm sure it won't last long...

"I had no intentions of chiming in on this thread as it seems to me that everything has been covered in detail. I will address the fact that I started this league as a co-commissioner along with Coogan since he is attempting to drag me under the bus with him.

I relinquished my duties as co-commissioner just as the season began as I already noticed that that he and I had very different styles of commissioning. When Coogan and I were organizing this league creating rules, and generally setting it up, I started with a set of bylaws that I use as a template whenever I create a league and modified it to fit what we decided would be best for this one. Once I had done that I emailed the bylaws out to all parties involved and I posted them on the site with the intention of getting input specifically from Coogan, and making adjustments so we would have a finalized set of laws. Moments later he said they looked good and to go ahead and run with them.

The very first issue arose regarding the injured reserve. The bylaws that had been okayed stated that only players designated as IR by MFL are eligible for the IR. When I saw that Coogan had a player on IR that was not designated as such, brought it up to Coogan on the chat. At that point he proceeded to tell me that that's how his other leagues were set up and that's how he intended this league to be set up.

My issue was that this is written in the bylaws and that if this is something we are going to change we should bring it up to vote for the following season. I even put up a poll to see that the rest of the league agreed with my stance that the bylaws should be the last word. The ruling was overwhelmingly on the side of the bylaws, yet Coogan decided to change the wording and have them fit his view on how the league was "supposed to be set up". That was not the last time that we faced this sort of the situation with the bylaws not being the last word.

Out of frustration and the foresight that this sort of shenanigans was likely to continue, I emailed the group to inform them that I would no longer be acting as co-commissioner other than to help with facilitation on MFL. I knew this was going to be an issue at that time and wanted nothing to do with it. At some point we even formed a committee of players to try to eliminate the sort of totalitarian dictatorship commissioning style that Coogan had been practicing.

Again, I had no intention of joining this conversation but I commission a lot of leagues and I really don't want this to be a reflection of me or my performance as a commissioner. I had no personal issues with Coogan at all, and while I think he's a knucklehead, I felt that he was harmless. I will say that I'm a bit disappointed as to how he chose to handle this situation."

[FiremanEd]

Not surprised it was deleted following the introduction of outside of fantasy football related items, but am disappointed it was deleted in its entirety and not just those specific posts. Coogan, as a well recognized name on these boards, and who even had something posted by DLF itself, should be up for everyone to be aware of his shenanigans.

As it was lost with the removal of the other thread I will sum it up as Coogan should be on your watch list of whom to avoid as a league participant and especially a commissioner. He has proven through multiple leagues and interactions that he will be a cancer on your league. His post count does not represent earned respect, integrity, or anything reflective of DLF or the community.

[Quinty]

Watch list? He's been outed as a thief. He should be banned from the site.

[GridironGuerilla]

Sorry it's choppy. I voice to texted while I was driving.

[spartan833]

I am concerned that the thread was deleted (I understand why) along with comments in previous threads warning people about dealing with him. I sure hope that some thread stays up to offer warning to people.

[Goddard]

Not surprised it was deleted following the introduction of outside of fantasy football related items, but am disappointed it was deleted in its entirety and not just those specific posts. Coogan, as a well recognized name on these boards, and who even had something posted by DLF itself, should be up for everyone to be aware of his shenanigans.

As it was lost with the removal of the other thread I will sum it up as Coogan should be on your watch list of whom to avoid as a league participant and especially a commissioner. He has proven through multiple leagues and interactions that he will be a cancer on your league. His post count does not represent earned respect, integrity, or anything reflective of DLF or the community.

I'm pretty disappointed the entire thread was deleted as well. I think if there were issues with some of the posts, those probably should have been deleted instead.

[BigBawseRoss]

Sorry it's choppy. I voice to texted while I was driving.

please fix any and all errors



I support GG as a good dude and a top notch commish/leader. He is the reason the league made it through a full season and was often the voice of reason. It was also well stated early on he was not involved in any of the decision making and that his role would purely be from a technical standpoint to help with new MFL users, site issues, reversing nonsensical IR moves that violated bylaws etc.

Unfortunately for him hes probably in charge of the league now haha but things will no doubt run smoothly from here. the problem has been taken care of.

this was not the first time coogan has blamed justin for problems in the league...multiple occasions he would modify the rules and then say it was because justin copy pasted it and they werent set up right (which as justin stated that was 100% on coogan to read and adjust how he wanted them PRIOR to them being set in stone as they say. he set them in stone and then went back and fudged things and thats when justin said im out i dont run leagues like this so if you wanna be crooked thats on you.

[pokerface40]

Not surprised it was deleted following the introduction of outside of fantasy football related items, but am disappointed it was deleted in its entirety and not just those specific posts. Coogan, as a well recognized name on these boards, and who even had something posted by DLF itself, should be up for everyone to be aware of his shenanigans.

As it was lost with the removal of the other thread I will sum it up as Coogan should be on your watch list of whom to avoid as a league participant and especially a commissioner. He has proven through multiple leagues and interactions that he will be a cancer on your league. His post count does not represent earned respect, integrity, or anything reflective of DLF or the community.

Agreed. That entire thread should not have been deleted. Especially after StableofRBs laid out the entire situation very clearly. Sure some of the name-calling and whatnot from the thread could be deleted but that thread outed a member of this forum with over 14,000 posts for cheating and stealing as a dynasty commish.

[dlf_jaronf]

All, while the thread in question was referencing a user in the DLF forum (through which there was recruitment for a dynasty league), it is well beyond the scope of this forum to defame any individual. Unfortunate as outside actions may be, we cannot condone the negative comments about this individual. In particular, those referencing his business are crossing the line too far.

Please feel free to PM me directly if you have additional concerns, but also recognize that the DLF forum is not the place to be airing personal grievances of this nature.

Thank you,
Jaron

[Goddard]

Maybe it could have been moved to the Off-Topic Forum. From what I've seen, pretty much anything goes there (outside of spam).

[pokerface40]

All, while the thread in question was referencing a user in the DLF forum (through which there was recruitment for a dynasty league), it is well beyond the scope of this forum to defame any individual. Unfortunate as outside actions may be, we cannot condone the negative comments about this individual. In particular, those referencing his business are crossing the line too far.

Please feel free to PM me directly if you have additional concerns, but also recognize that the DLF forum is not the place to be airing personal grievances of this nature.

Thank you,
Jaron

Then delete the comments about his business(the name of which was never mentioned so I don't see why that's a big deal). He STOLE money from quite a few prominent forum members who have outed him. We have had threads on here before warning others about shady commissioners, and I hope they continue. The fact that thread was deleted is a travesty and a huge disservice to your loyal forum members.

[dlf_jaronf]

Pokerface40 and Goddard, I just sent you PMs. Thanks

[Never Veto1]

Not surprised it was deleted following the introduction of outside of fantasy football related items, but am disappointed it was deleted in its entirety and not just those specific posts. Coogan, as a well recognized name on these boards, and who even had something posted by DLF itself, should be up for everyone to be aware of his shenanigans.

As it was lost with the removal of the other thread I will sum it up as Coogan should be on your watch list of whom to avoid as a league participant and especially a commissioner. He has proven through multiple leagues and interactions that he will be a cancer on your league. His post count does not represent earned respect, integrity, or anything reflective of DLF or the community.

Agreed. That entire thread should not have been deleted. Especially after StableofRBs laid out the entire situation very clearly. Sure some of the name-calling and whatnot from the thread could be deleted but that thread outed a member of this forum with over 14,000 posts.

I have nothing to do with any of this, I basically read through all of it. I'm pretty disappointed the post was taken down though. So DLF would rather protect someones image rather than allow others to be aware of a shady individual hmm...

[dlf_jaronf]

Pokerface40, Goddard, and Never Veto, I just sent you PMs. Thanks

[joeday]

If the original post of the original thread is true (which it seems to have been confirmed by numerous others) then, at the very least, the original post should have stayed up. DLF (and dynasty football in general) is a community, and if someone is ripping off others then it should be known. If someone is new to dynasty and doesn't know about his previous activity and gets taken across (and their dynasty experience is ruined) we should feel some level of responsibility for that. Legitimately bad commissioners, especially, should be put on blast for trying to cheat or steal.