Fournette vs Henry

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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby CK_ » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:28 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:06 am
CK_ wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:49 pm I can definitely understand why someone would not want to trade Henry. Wasn't he the number overall pick in most people's minds before Zeke got drafted by the boys? He's still a solid prospect and can potentially be worthwhile for the price but I would be more than happy to sell him for a hefty price if given the chance..
I've literally never spoken to anyone who had Henry higher than Zeke as a prospect. Maybe Skip, as he's very high on him, but the consensus was pretty much always Zeke at #1, further cemented by Laquon's combine, and then post draft of course it just widened to a chasm.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby pierson242 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 10:43 am

Defender wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:27 pm So far this season, Fournette has averaged under 25 PPR PPG. When starting, Henry has averaged over 30 PPR PPG. Smaller sample size, yes. But Henry’s games were against playoff teams.

I honestly think these two are much closer than most want to admit.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby murphysxm » Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:00 pm

CK_ wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:43 am Take Fournette bud. Henry isn't as good as people want to make him out to be...
and if Fournette can't stay healthy or Bortles is still the QB or that line doesn't improve, neither is Lenny.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby bsacks13 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:55 pm

This shouldn't even be a question..LF all the way.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby jetsfan5757 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:06 pm

I am biased, but I'd keep Henry and pick.

Fournette has his advantages: name value (for trading purposes), proven workload, system committed to run. He also has disadvantages such as his injury history, which scares me a good bit. He always seems to be banged up and I hate dealing with players like that.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby Seventy5 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:23 pm

Stats aside, I've never come away from watching Henry all that impressed. He's a big man with some speed who to me doesn't play like a big man. Not saying I think he's bad, but I don't think the talent/game tape matches the production.

When watching Fournette, I almost always walk away thinking this guy is actually underrated by the fantasy community and his production will skyrocket if Jacksonville ever gets an average QB+WR1. My only concern here is his ankle.

Henry+1.07 for my Fournette would be an instant reject and I probably wouldn't entertain any deal where Henry was the main piece coming back my way if moving Fournette.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby CK_ » Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:45 pm

murphysxm wrote: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:00 pm
CK_ wrote: Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:43 am Take Fournette bud. Henry isn't as good as people want to make him out to be...
and if Fournette can't stay healthy or Bortles is still the QB or that line doesn't improve, neither is Lenny.
And look at the slaughter he's doing without all of that.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby prinefan » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:50 pm

Fournette side and not close to me.

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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby jeffster » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:25 am

Feels like people are getting too cute with Henry here. Fournette has the draft pedigree and the production; Henry looked solid but is still second fiddle on his own team after two seasons. Even their DLF rankings are 16 to 37, and their ADPs are 13 to 33. The 1.07 is an excellent deal to make up that gap.

Not that I wouldn't be happy to acquire Henry too, just not in comparison with Fournette.

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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:51 am

Seventy5 wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:23 pm
When watching Fournette, I almost always walk away thinking this guy is actually underrated by the fantasy community and his production will skyrocket if Jacksonville ever gets an average QB+WR1. My only concern here is his ankle.
It is strange isn't it. In a community that goes absolutely bonkers for Rb's, it doesn't seem like anyone really loves Fournette. Just think what he's done as a rookie on a sub-par offense. 1300+ total yards, 10 tds in just 13 games. Multiple receptions in 12 of those 13 games, so this myth that he couldn't be used in the passing game didn't hold up. I like Henry but I have no doubt in my mind that Fournette is more talented.

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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby CK_ » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:08 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:51 am
Seventy5 wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:23 pm
When watching Fournette, I almost always walk away thinking this guy is actually underrated by the fantasy community and his production will skyrocket if Jacksonville ever gets an average QB+WR1. My only concern here is his ankle.
It is strange isn't it. In a community that goes absolutely bonkers for Rb's, it doesn't seem like anyone really loves Fournette. Just think what he's done as a rookie on a sub-par offense. 1300+ total yards, 10 tds in just 13 games. Multiple receptions in 12 of those 13 games, so this myth that he couldn't be used in the passing game didn't hold up. I like Henry but I have no doubt in my mind that Fournette is more talented.
I downright looooove Fournette and I tried to acquire the first overall last year in my league to get him but to no avail. I will definitely be excited if my leaguemates are feeling the same about Fournette as people here do. Will aggressively be trying to acquire him. Maybe I'll give up my 1.03 for him iono
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby Shoreline Steamers » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:49 pm

Call me risk averse, but the fact that his ankle continues to be an issue (and has been for well over a year) and I'm concerned about Fournette staying on the field. He could end up being a guy that you've constantly got to keep an eye on the injury reports to determine whether or not he's going to play. Now he could get right in the offseason and it's never an issue again.

But that didn't happen in the 2016 offseason. And if I've got to add the 1.07 to Henry in order to obtain his services I'd probably just stay away. But I can see why plenty of owners would take the other side, the talent and upside are certainly there.
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Re: Fournette vs Henry

Postby mike40 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:18 pm

Henry has shown flashes but Fournette has proven what he could do with a full workload and lackluster offense. Granted a better QB and passing game may take away opportunities but his efficiency is bound to go up if that did indeed happen. Even if his injuries do linger it's going to happen to power RBS like LF and Henry. Although LF does seem to welcome contact a lot more. All in all I say Fournette.. he'd be the 1.02 in this upcoming draft, possibly the 1.01. I would need more than Henry to make up the difference from the 1.07
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