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Derrick Henry

Postby jetsfan5757 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:32 pm

I didn't see the game. Box score looked great but I read some comments saying he didn't look as good as his box score.

What do people think of his outlook in 2018 and beyond? I have him. I'm holding until I see what he can do with the #1 role personally...
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Pac_Eddy » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:01 pm

I think you've got to hold at least until we see if Demarco Murray is back next season. If he's not, Henry's value is bumped up. That's when you take offers.

As for tonite, he looked like his normal self. Killed it when he got good blocking or open space to pick up speed. Got bottled up easily when the blocking wasn't there. He doesn't create that much.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby nathanq42 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:03 pm

Looked good on a few runs that were big plays, but he got bottled up when there isn't a good sized hole, and when he doesn't have a good head of steam he plays smaller than his size imo
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Shcritters » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:14 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:03 pm
Looked good on a few runs that were big plays, but he got bottled up when there isn't a good sized hole, and when he doesn't have a good head of steam he plays smaller than his size imo
This. He needs 3 yards to get going. But when he does his momentum will take him 5-6. I would t be surprised if he had more than average negative or 1-yard plays, less than average 2-4 yard plays, and more than average 5+ yard plays. It is boom or bust, not a lot in between.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Shcritters » Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:14 pm

nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:03 pm
Looked good on a few runs that were big plays, but he got bottled up when there isn't a good sized hole, and when he doesn't have a good head of steam he plays smaller than his size imo
This. He needs 3 yards to get going. But when he does his momentum will take him 5-6. I would t be surprised if he had more than average negative or 1-yard plays, less than average 2-4 yard plays, and more than average 5+ yard plays. It is boom or bust, not a lot in between.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Londondynasty » Sun Jan 07, 2018 5:10 am

I traded him towards the end of the year straight up for TY Hilton. Have been second guessing myself ever since. But he wasn't even my flex and I needed wr help (not that ty gave it to me in he playoffs!)
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby jtsmalls » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:18 am

I thought he looked good. A lot of backs get stymied at line of scrimmage if there isn't a hole.

I'm holding to see what happens.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby DJB » Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:52 am

He looked the past of an RB 1 . If he has another solid game next week the cost is going to be even more astronomical . Still think Murray is back next year

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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Tvols » Sun Jan 07, 2018 8:07 am

Looked good imho he go s down to easy for his size too little fight from him ..nice speed and size but he doesn’t use that size at the point of attack that I seen The last two games.. nice low end rb 1 or high end 2

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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby bot » Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:38 am

DJB wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:52 am
He looked the past of an RB 1 . If he has another solid game next week the cost is going to be even more astronomical . Still think Murray is back next year
I just don't get why TEN would bring him back? He is owed a ton of money with none being of the dead variety. Ya they could restructure his deal but I think it would be cheaper for the team to use Henry as the RB1 and draft a guy in the 4th-6th as a 3rd down back. Then they can spend their savings elsewhere.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby dynastyninja » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:02 pm

bot wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:38 am
DJB wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:52 am
He looked the past of an RB 1 . If he has another solid game next week the cost is going to be even more astronomical . Still think Murray is back next year
I just don't get why TEN would bring him back? He is owed a ton of money with none being of the dead variety. Ya they could restructure his deal but I think it would be cheaper for the team to use Henry as the RB1 and draft a guy in the 4th-6th as a 3rd down back. Then they can spend their savings elsewhere.
Why wouldn't they want to bring him back? I'm not privy to the TEN cap situation, but I think from a value standpoint Murray is more than worth his $6.25 million price tag. As much as Henry owners want to believe it, Henry is not better than Murray. The Titans are a better team with Murray on the roster, and having two good backs is very valuable.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Defender » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:36 pm

dynastyninja wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:02 pm
bot wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:38 am
DJB wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:52 am
He looked the past of an RB 1 . If he has another solid game next week the cost is going to be even more astronomical . Still think Murray is back next year
I just don't get why TEN would bring him back? He is owed a ton of money with none being of the dead variety. Ya they could restructure his deal but I think it would be cheaper for the team to use Henry as the RB1 and draft a guy in the 4th-6th as a 3rd down back. Then they can spend their savings elsewhere.
Why wouldn't they want to bring him back? I'm not privy to the TEN cap situation, but I think from a value standpoint Murray is more than worth his $6.25 million price tag. As much as Henry owners want to believe it, Henry is not better than Murray. The Titans are a better team with Murray on the roster, and having two good backs is very valuable.
Everything else could be argued, but that last line is a certified fact. The Falcons showed how potent 2 great backs can be last year. And now look at what the Saints and Pats have done this year with their multi-headed backfields. I don’t think it will bode too well for either of the TEN RBs, but I agree that the team would be better off keeping Murray. :boohoo:
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby prinefan » Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:54 pm

Can't shake the feeling I'm seeing Brandon Jacobs all over again.

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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Bam_19 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:57 pm

Shcritters wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:14 pm
nathanq42 wrote:
Sat Jan 06, 2018 10:03 pm
Looked good on a few runs that were big plays, but he got bottled up when there isn't a good sized hole, and when he doesn't have a good head of steam he plays smaller than his size imo
This. He needs 3 yards to get going. But when he does his momentum will take him 5-6. I would t be surprised if he had more than average negative or 1-yard plays, less than average 2-4 yard plays, and more than average 5+ yard plays. It is boom or bust, not a lot in between.
I’m not sure why nfl averages are (or where to find that data. But from yesterday Henry had plays of

1 yard or less - 4
2-4 yards - 7
5 plus yards - 12

So he looked pretty damn good.
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Re: Derrick Henry

Postby Bam_19 » Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:58 pm

dynastyninja wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:02 pm
bot wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:38 am
DJB wrote:
Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:52 am
He looked the past of an RB 1 . If he has another solid game next week the cost is going to be even more astronomical . Still think Murray is back next year
I just don't get why TEN would bring him back? He is owed a ton of money with none being of the dead variety. Ya they could restructure his deal but I think it would be cheaper for the team to use Henry as the RB1 and draft a guy in the 4th-6th as a 3rd down back. Then they can spend their savings elsewhere.
Why wouldn't they want to bring him back? I'm not privy to the TEN cap situation, but I think from a value standpoint Murray is more than worth his $6.25 million price tag. As much as Henry owners want to believe it, Henry is not better than Murray. The Titans are a better team with Murray on the roster, and having two good backs is very valuable.
The stats disagree that Murray is better. The only thing that was better was his catch rate and that’s because he had more than double the opportunity Henry had in that department.
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