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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:21 pm
by jonesmaster
Friction wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:41 am I think Sutton is a guy I can and will easily target impatient owners in a year or two(especially 2). People can preach all day long about their long game, but when it comes down to it will unload for pennies on the dollar when he is wasting away on their bench.
love it. all about this kind of stuff

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:17 pm
by James McGhee
Breakout Age or College Dominator?

Obviously the more data we have to analyze the better decisions we can make and would ultimately like our prospects to have both high college dominator ratings as well as young breakout ages - but is there one that is more important than the other? I mean, if you have a 24 year old Senior dominating touches in their offense against much younger and much less developed CBs is that as impressive as someone who "broke out" at 18?

Thoughts? If this has been discussed elsewhere and someone has a link handy that'll work too. Just thought this would be a good thread to discuss.

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:46 pm
by James McGhee
So, just started my WR scouting (nope, not finished with my RB scouting but I needed a break) and I came across Deontay Burnett, WR - USC. He's small at 5'11" 175 but he posted a 30.6% College Dominator and his breakout age is 19.9. He had 86 receptions for 1114 yards and 9 TDs in '17 and caught 12 passes for 139 yards against Ohio State in the Cotton Bowl.

I haven't heard much about him until today and when I saw his numbers I went and watched his tape vs Ohio State and I was impressed with his hands and his route running.

Anyone else have any thoughts on the guy?

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:18 pm
by austing
Friction wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:41 am I think Sutton is a guy I can and will easily target impatient owners in a year or two(especially 2). People can preach all day long about their long game, but when it comes down to it will unload for pennies on the dollar when he is wasting away on their bench.
In Treadwell's case, I'd understand that urge to sell.

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:56 pm
by crstoops
lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:31 am What do we think about Kirk? Is he a potential Jarvis Landry?
This is exactly who I have compared Kirk too (I'm also a HUGE A&M Fan...but thats besides the point). I really do see Kirk thriving in the slot type role in the NFL, great hands and good speed. I'm really hoping Kirk falls to me in my rookie draft!!!

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:04 pm
by James McGhee
How old is D.J. Moore? I can't find his age.

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:20 pm
by hockeyBjj
In today's fun news, my league ALWAYS makes a heavy RB run and with the 2017 class doing so well I out the gate the 2018 RB hype I'm expecting more of the same

I have the 1.6 pick, and previously greatly needed an RB and was fearful I'd have the take the 6th best RB there

Made some moves and balanced out my team. I think there's a good chance Sutton makes it the 1.6 and I can take him there.

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:22 pm
by Ghosted
James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:04 pm How old is D.J. Moore? I can't find his age.
21 in April. Youngest WR in the class.

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:31 pm
by James McGhee
James McGhee wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:04 pm How old is D.J. Moore? I can't find his age.
Nevermind. Found it!

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:01 am
by James McGhee
What are the thoughts on hand size? Is there a threshold beneath which should be considered a red flag?

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:57 am
by btv802
FWIW, Lance Zierlein has Calvin Ridley as his top graded WR prospect since Sammy Watkins & Amari Cooper on nfl.com

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:12 pm
by James McGhee
btv802 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:57 am FWIW, Lance Zierlein has Calvin Ridley as his top graded WR prospect since Sammy Watkins & Amari Cooper on nfl.com
Sooo...you're saying we should ruuuuuuuunnnnn?!

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:25 pm
by Dynasty DeLorean
btv802 wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:57 am FWIW, Lance Zierlein has Calvin Ridley as his top graded WR prospect since Sammy Watkins & Amari Cooper on nfl.com
link?

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:27 pm
by DJB
Bucky Brooks WR

Ridley
Kirk
Washington
Sutton
Cain
A Miller
M Gallup

Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:39 pm
by jaykay22
I haven't seen much mentioned about Dante Pettis around here. Daniel Jeremiah is pretty high on him as he had him in his Top 50 players list, and Lance Zierlein gave him a much higher grade than most WR's in this class on NFL.com.

Personally I like him quite a bit from what I've seen! Explosive target who can do damage vertically, who combines a nice pair of hands with what looks like a much more developed route tree than most peers. Not Will Fuller fast, but quick enough going over the top (not too shabby in the underneath and intermediate stuff) and in the return game, speaking of which he is special once the ball is in his hands and he's in the open field (broke DJax's career NCAA punt return for TD record with 9). He's got a bit of a thin frame, but he seems to be able to track and adjust to the football well, and is nice at stacking DB's.

I'm thinking a solid combine should get him a day 2 (round 3?) pick, and if he blows the combine up he may slip into the second round, even.

Thoughts? Anyone else a fan?