2018 Rookie WRs Thread

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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby hjernazian » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:26 am

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:26 am
IBall2 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:00 am
benpickering44 wrote: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:03 am overhyped: Calvin Ridley. 23 year old slot receivers with underwhelming production do not deserve to be top 15 nfl draft picks

underlooked: DJ Moore and Michael Gallup. Both extremely productive at young ages with above average athleticism.
But considering Alabama only passed for roughly 2500 passing yards on the season and Ridley had over 900 receiving yards, you can see why his numbers may look 'underwhelming' but in reality he owns over 35% of the teams receiving yards which is well above average and is one of the biggest correlations with NFL success. For reference, the 35% of teams receiving yards is right around the 70th percentile for college dominator.

But I do agree with age being a concern.
Last I checked, age doesn’t correlate with success, but leaving before you exhaust your eligibility does.

Anybody have any data on how age of a prospect when they’re drafted correlates with success?
Yes, it actually does. Check out one of the more recent DLF articles. They break it down. And 23 yo WRs are a non-no according to it.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby IBall2 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 5:43 am

kamihamster wrote: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:25 pm How come I haven't heard anything about this Marquez Valdez-Scantling fella that ran a 4.37? Looked at some of his tape and he reminds me of Martavis.
You probably haven't heard much about him because hes almost 24 years old and didn't put up huge numbers ever in college. He is a good late round flier but I have to do some more research before I can decide if he's a one trick pony or if he has some game that can translate to the NFL.

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Postby Lotto4Life » Wed Mar 07, 2018 7:12 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:45 pmHe's (Chark) more of a Robby Anderson or Martavis Bryant if he hits.
Hopefully on field only.

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Postby cazzie33 » Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:26 am

Charknado on & off the field :P
Good comps though !

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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby Servo » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 am

It's looking like DJ Moore is really starting to blow up, McShay (take it for what it's worth) now has him in Round 1.

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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby sammyz » Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:55 am

Servo wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 am It's looking like DJ Moore is really starting to blow up, McShay (take it for what it's worth) now has him in Round 1.
Sutton is still my #1 WR I think, but Moore shot straight up to my #2, and I think I have him at about 8 overall
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby C_n_red_again » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:14 am

sammyz wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:55 am
Servo wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 am It's looking like DJ Moore is really starting to blow up, McShay (take it for what it's worth) now has him in Round 1.
Sutton is still my #1 WR I think, but Moore shot straight up to my #2, and I think I have him at about 8 overall

I agree with this. And here's a very good breakdown of these two WRs. I'm particularly keen of this authors analasys.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby James McGhee » Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:39 am

sammyz wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:55 am
Servo wrote: Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:31 am It's looking like DJ Moore is really starting to blow up, McShay (take it for what it's worth) now has him in Round 1.
Sutton is still my #1 WR I think, but Moore shot straight up to my #2, and I think I have him at about 8 overall
Well there goes trying to get him at 8
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby Servo » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:09 am

Auden Tate runs a 4.75 at his Pro-Day, I think the days of him being considered a 2nd RD rookie pick are gone unless you just have to have #BigWR

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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby Cherokee » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:26 am

I kinda like Anthony Milller. Worried about Mephis and being a producf of the system but if I was going to compare anyone to Jarvis Landry it would be him.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby jman3134 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:56 am

Servo wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:09 am Auden Tate runs a 4.75 at his Pro-Day, I think the days of him being considered a 2nd RD rookie pick are gone unless you just have to have #BigWR
I was going to mention this as well. Apparently his other metrics have scouts questioning his overall athleticism. But he looked great running routes, so I don't see this as taking him completely out of the draft.

Other workout warriors in the receiver ranks:
Jeff Badet of Oklahoma ran a 4.27 40, with a 39 1/2'' vertical, and 10'11" broad jump.
Vyncint Smith of Limestone posted 4.36 40, 39 1/2" vertical and 10'10" broad jump.
JJ Jones of West Georgia ran a 4.29 40.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby Go Bucks » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:11 am

jman3134 wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:56 am
Servo wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:09 am Auden Tate runs a 4.75 at his Pro-Day, I think the days of him being considered a 2nd RD rookie pick are gone unless you just have to have #BigWR
I was going to mention this as well. Apparently his other metrics have scouts questioning his overall athleticism. But he looked great running routes, so I don't see this as taking him completely out of the draft.

Other workout warriors in the receiver ranks:
Jeff Badet of Oklahoma ran a 4.27 40, with a 39 1/2'' vertical, and 10'11" broad jump.
Vyncint Smith of Limestone posted 4.36 40, 39 1/2" vertical and 10'10" broad jump.
JJ Jones of West Georgia ran a 4.29 40.
Justin Watson from Penn ran 4.42, broad jump 10' 4", and 20 reps on the bench. White dude so most will lazily mock him to the Pats.

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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby jman3134 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:40 am

^^ Yeah, he has some really good buzz right now. Definitely deserves to be picked somewhere and it wouldn't surprise me if he jumps up a few rounds from where he is projected.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:07 pm

Go Bucks wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:11 am
Justin Watson from Penn ran 4.42, broad jump 10' 4", and 20 reps on the bench.
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Re: 2018 Rookie WRs Thread

Postby DynoScout » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:47 am

Pre-Draft Opinion
WR:
Moore
Sutton
Ridley
Cain
Washington
Kirk
Pettis
Coutee
Miller
St. Brown
Gallup
Chark
Hamilton
Quinn
Lazard
Tate
Cobbs
Moore
Callaway
Pringle

If not listed, I didn't get to them or didn't have access to enough film to form an opinion worth posting.


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