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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Blackout » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:39 pm

j2cain wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:26 pm Team in sig. My RB situation may be a disaster, but I am really not interested in selling Henry all too low.

I do have an owner that approached me on a trade. I let him know I won't part with him for a discount.

Players he said are available are Ingram, Reynolds, Dixon, Dez, 2.4, 2.6, 2019 1st, Jamaal Williams

Realistically, would you package any of that for Henry in my team below?

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Dixon, Reynolds and Williams = irrelevant

Dez = nearly over

Ingram = enough good but nearly 29 and Kamara around

I would try to get this RB however with 2019 1st or both 2.4 and 2.6. Henry is the kind of RB with big opportunity now but has good chances to bust.


Oops it's the Williams from GB. A bit better.

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby j2cain » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:50 pm

So you're saying try to get Williams and 2.4, 2.6 or Williams and 2019 first for Henry?
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Blackout » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:09 pm

j2cain wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:50 pm So you're saying trying to get Williams, 2.4, 2.6 and 2019 first for Henry?
No i just meant Williams from GB is better than Williams from SF (and with a better situation)

1/ 2019 1st and Ingram

2/ 2.4, 2.6 and Ingram

(I'm really low on Henry)

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby j2cain » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:15 pm

Ah ok that makes sense now, haha.

I was never really high on him, but made a move for him earlier this year. I guess I made the move knowing he could be in a time share. I don't like Lewis landing there since he is more than just a 3rd down back

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:30 pm

j2cain wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:26 pm Team in sig. My RB situation may be a disaster, but I am really not interested in selling Henry all too low.

I do have an owner that approached me on a trade. I let him know I won't part with him for a discount.

Players he said are available are Ingram, Reynolds, Dixon, Dez, 2.4, 2.6, 2019 1st, Jamaal Williams

Realistically, would you package any of that for Henry in my team below?

Thanks guys
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby freddog97 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm

Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm

freddog97 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Pullo Vision » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:50 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm
freddog97 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
Agree, still not enough. Even if you could get a 2019 1st, and guarantee it'd be no worse than 6th overall, I still wouldn't jump on it.
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ArrylT » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:51 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm
freddog97 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
It is very interesting how different owners value different players so differently - Anthony Miller lasted til the 3rd round of my rookie draft (and its a 16 team draft) yet you have him as a 1st. :)
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ArrylT » Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:54 pm

Pullo Vision wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:50 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm
freddog97 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
Agree, still not enough. Even if you could get a 2019 1st, and guarantee it'd be no worse than 6th overall, I still wouldn't jump on it.
See above comment. In a massive rebuild I'd be perfectly happy to get 3 later 1sts, if I expected my team was likely to "contend" for the 1.01 again next year. Of course it was the word massive that I think is key - can only assume the roster is barren of talent.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby DrNoish » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:25 pm

ArrylT wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:51 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm
freddog97 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:37 pm Gave: 1.01

Received: 1.05 1.06 1.09

My team is in a massive rebuild. I think the extra shots would be better as of now.
Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
It is very interesting how different owners value different players so differently - Anthony Miller lasted til the 3rd round of my rookie draft (and its a 16 team draft) yet you have him as a 1st. :)
I don't even know who Anthony Miller is.

I agree that was short sell though. With this market on the 1.01 you could've completed your rebuild off it, as long as you sold Barkley before training camp some stupid heavy offer would come. I don't disagree with several shots, hope they work out for you in the rebuild.
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:09 pm

ArrylT wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:54 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:50 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:44 pm Yikes - I would still much rather have Saquon over a combo of RoJo, Freeman, & Anthony Miller
Agree, still not enough. Even if you could get a 2019 1st, and guarantee it'd be no worse than 6th overall, I still wouldn't jump on it.
See above comment. In a massive rebuild I'd be perfectly happy to get 3 later 1sts, if I expected my team was likely to "contend" for the 1.01 again next year. Of course it was the word massive that I think is key - can only assume the roster is barren of talent.
There's no better place to start a rebuild than with a 20 year old generational RB talent.

Dalvin Cook
Mike Williams
Zay Jones

Sterling Shepard
Michael Thomas
Kenneth Dixon

Nelson Agholor
DeVante Parker
Breshad Perriman

That's who 5, 6, 9 were in my main league the last 3 years. Meh, I'd rather just have Barkley. Realistically at least one and most likely two of those guys are going to be busts, and it's unlikely the leftover one will be worth as much as Barkley.
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Blackout » Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:45 pm

Wow give me 1.05, 1.06 and 1.09 all day for 1.01 ! Draft just has to be fine with these picks but i could take the risk for the pleasure to get the best fallers to me. Three guys like Cook, Kamara or Juju version 2017 and Barkley can hide. Three guys like McCaffrey, Ross or Z.Jones and i can hide lol (not the type of guy i target anyway)

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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby Vcize » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:02 pm

Blackout wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:45 pm Wow give me 1.05, 1.06 and 1.09 all day for 1.01 ! Draft just has to be fine with these picks but i could take the risk for the pleasure to get the best fallers to me. Three guys like Cook, Kamara or Juju version 2017 and Barkley can hide. Three guys like McCaffrey, Ross or Z.Jones and i can hide lol (not the type of guy i target anyway)
Good luck drafting the equivalent of Cook, Kamara, and JuJu.

People have pretty unrealistic expectations sometimes. I could go back through 20 years of league history and I doubt I'd find once where those 3 picks netted 3 players like that. Even if the players are out there like last year the odds are still very low that you actually grab all 3. In my league last year those 3 picks netted only one of them.
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Re: 2018 Off-Season Trade Thread

Postby ArrylT » Wed Mar 14, 2018 9:04 pm

Vcize wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:09 pm
ArrylT wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:54 pm
Pullo Vision wrote: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:50 pm
Agree, still not enough. Even if you could get a 2019 1st, and guarantee it'd be no worse than 6th overall, I still wouldn't jump on it.
See above comment. In a massive rebuild I'd be perfectly happy to get 3 later 1sts, if I expected my team was likely to "contend" for the 1.01 again next year. Of course it was the word massive that I think is key - can only assume the roster is barren of talent.
There's no better place to start a rebuild than with a 20 year old generational RB talent.

Dalvin Cook
Mike Williams
Zay Jones

Sterling Shepard
Michael Thomas
Kenneth Dixon

Nelson Agholor
DeVante Parker
Breshad Perriman

That's who 5, 6, 9 were in my main league the last 3 years. Meh, I'd rather just have Barkley. Realistically at least one and most likely two of those guys are going to be busts, and it's unlikely the leftover one will be worth as much as Barkley.
Well, as mentioned above, different owners value things differently. And I think most owners would agree that every leagues draft is different, they just do not all play out exactly the same way.

So in one league it could have been Cook, Williams, Kamara, in another it could have been Cook, Hunt, Juju. It all depends on which owners value which players, and when the draft occurred. Last year, I rarely saw Jones go that early in my leagues - and in hindsight the savvy owner was taking a Kamara or a Hunt or a Juju in the late 1st.

And not ever year has a locked in 1.01. I saw 4 different players go at 1.01 (Davis, Fournette, Mixon & CMC).

I am sure many people who went Corey Davis 1.01 were displeased with Year I, same with those who took Cooper at 1.01 in 2015 after his 2017. Maybe a year from now anyone who sold 1.01 will regret it because he is the next Barry Sanders, but if he puts up an average season, people who kept it may be regretting it.

Maybe he could have gotten more, but again, every leagues market is different. Maybe he can turn each pick into a successful veteran. Or maybe all 3 will hit.

Nothing wrong with the owner who wants the 1 high percentage bet and nothing wrong with the owner who wants 3 medium percentage bets.

Just too many variables at play to know whats the right call - but if in a massive rebuild, the more shots you take, the better your chances (imo) because you have more assets to use and more ways to build from nothing.
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