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They should draft their guy and go hard after Alex Smith.
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I agree they need to take the punt on qb this year but I would argue their trading back in the last 2 drafts was the right decision rather then a mistake. Got good capital and I think have drafted well recently, but it's time to take one of the top guys!!! (If you can't tell I'm actually rooting for browns to not suck, also I'm a colts fan so no bias)skip wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:04 pmSo basically make the exact same mistake they do every year. Trade down to add picks but end up drafting one of the QBs that isn't a franchise talent. That's how they've been losing for almost 20 years.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:21 pm The more I think about it, Cleveland should trade one of those picks, or at the very least use 1.01 on a non-QB.
You’d have to think they could get a ton of value just by moving back from 4 to 6 or 11 or so.
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Why would they grab Smith? Kizer, or even Kessler, can function as a bridge. Smith is going to want a shot to be the long-term option.
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Re: Cleveland Browns Get 2 of top 4 picks
they have a ton of cap space, and can win the division tomorrow if they sign smith
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No not necessarily. Maybe they take their franchise QB at 1.01, but then they could deal 1.04 to a team looking for a QB and get an overpay to move back.skip wrote: ↑Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:04 pmSo basically make the exact same mistake they do every year. Trade down to add picks but end up drafting one of the QBs that isn't a franchise talent. That's how they've been losing for almost 20 years.OhCruelestRanter wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:21 pm The more I think about it, Cleveland should trade one of those picks, or at the very least use 1.01 on a non-QB.
You’d have to think they could get a ton of value just by moving back from 4 to 6 or 11 or so.
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I believe the Browns should draft Barkley at #1 and grab their QB at #4 .. Cousins signing with the Browns is a pipe dream !! At least 20% of the league will be trying to sign Cousins. Who in their right mind would believe he chooses Cleveland.
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Cleveland's got crazy cap space. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he signs there.TheEastWest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:14 am I believe the Browns should draft Barkley at #1 and grab their QB at #4 .. Cousins signing with the Browns is a pipe dream !! At least 20% of the league will be trying to sign Cousins. Who in their right mind would believe he chooses Cleveland.
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I don’t think Cousins simply signs with the highest bidder.. Plenty of teams can create cap space to sign Cousins and he will break the bank and still be able to go to a stable franchise.. Cousins holds the cards at this time , no way he signs with the Browns!
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Re: Cleveland Browns Get 2 of top 4 picks
This is what I've been thinking as well. Cousins probably wants to go to a team that can win now (or relatively soon) so the 2 main teams that come to mind are the Jaguars and Vikings, both could use an upgrade at QB and already showed what they can do with middle of the road QB play.TheEastWest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:35 am I don’t think Cousins simply signs with the highest bidder.. Plenty of teams can create cap space to sign Cousins and he will break the bank and still be able to go to a stable franchise.. Cousins holds the cards at this time , no way he signs with the Browns!
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I definitely understand what you're saying and don't think he only cares about getting the most money possible. I do think he still strongly considers them because they will have a good surrounding cast around him on offense (good offensive line, potentially Saquon, and good receivers).TheEastWest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:35 am I don’t think Cousins simply signs with the highest bidder.. Plenty of teams can create cap space to sign Cousins and he will break the bank and still be able to go to a stable franchise.. Cousins holds the cards at this time , no way he signs with the Browns!
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The OL will be losing its anchor when Thomas hangs it up in the next few years if not as soon as this year. .
Flash is one mistake from being out of the league and Coleman always seems to be hurt. Plus who goes out of their way to live in Cleveland when at least 6-7 teams will be in a all out war to sign Cousins..
If i were the Browns I wouldn’t want to spend a huge chunk on my cap on a 30 year old QB who’s better off with a win now team like the Vikings .
I don’t believe Cousins is a good fit for either side..
Browns are better off drafting their guy at #4 to pair up with Barkley and still having tons of cap room to address the D side of the ball ..
The Browns are not a Cousins type away from making a SB run .. Better to add more youth to a young team then trying a quick fix with a good but aging QB .
Flash is one mistake from being out of the league and Coleman always seems to be hurt. Plus who goes out of their way to live in Cleveland when at least 6-7 teams will be in a all out war to sign Cousins..
If i were the Browns I wouldn’t want to spend a huge chunk on my cap on a 30 year old QB who’s better off with a win now team like the Vikings .
I don’t believe Cousins is a good fit for either side..
Browns are better off drafting their guy at #4 to pair up with Barkley and still having tons of cap room to address the D side of the ball ..
The Browns are not a Cousins type away from making a SB run .. Better to add more youth to a young team then trying a quick fix with a good but aging QB .
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Cousins @ 30 years old has arguably just as many years left in the NFL as Barkley does @ 21 years old. If they tied up Cousins with Barkley for at least the next 4-6 years I could see them really turning things around.TheEastWest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 24, 2018 8:17 am If i were the Browns I wouldn’t want to spend a huge chunk on my cap on a 30 year old QB who’s better off with a win now team like the Vikings .
I don’t believe Cousins is a good fit for either side..
Browns are better off drafting their guy at #4 to pair up with Barkley and still having tons of cap room to address the D side of the ball ..
The Browns are not a Cousins type away from making a SB run .. Better to add more youth to a young team then trying a quick fix with a good but aging QB .
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Great conversation thread guys. CLE has a history of back picks/Luck...almost to a point where I believe in voodoo. Lol
Makes one skiddish to believe in them this year but I see the signing of Haley as a major plus.
Take their QB at the draft and sign a veteran to carry the team for a few years. CLE has a good OL so Barkley will flourish immediately as long as he isn’t assigned as Josh Gordon’s roommate.
Makes one skiddish to believe in them this year but I see the signing of Haley as a major plus.
Take their QB at the draft and sign a veteran to carry the team for a few years. CLE has a good OL so Barkley will flourish immediately as long as he isn’t assigned as Josh Gordon’s roommate.
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Re: Cleveland Browns Get 2 of top 4 picks
I’d have to imagine the value of the Vikings WRs would rise further still with Cousins. Same in Jacksonville.
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Re: Cleveland Browns Get 2 of top 4 picks
Maybe Vikings put thier name in the hat for Cousins. Obviously Cousins will get paid but I don’t believe he will simply sign with the highest bidder.. He in a sense gambled on himself by refusing long term deals and his first priority will be to sign with a stable organization ... Browns don’t qualify as stable to say the least ..
I’m not a Browns fan but I’d like to see them stock pile more youth and draft Barkley and a QB at #4.. I feel signing Cousins would be a poor fit for both sides ..
I’m not a Browns fan but I’d like to see them stock pile more youth and draft Barkley and a QB at #4.. I feel signing Cousins would be a poor fit for both sides ..
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