Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby PingPwng » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:23 pm

He's looking like a stud for a rookie. His starts were all over 65 yards as well. His Rotoworld blurb gave a lot more info than I could. Said Humphries leaving would open up a great role for him in the slot. I see Jarvis Landry upside.
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby ninotoreS » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:25 pm

Godwin is good. He can ball. The issues are 1.) Mike Evans is better (even with his down year he's still one of the very few players in NFL history with four consecutive 1k yard receiving seasons, I think he's bound for Canton) 2.) Jameis Winston may not be more than a strictly average starting QB 3.) OJ Howard's target-share should grow 4.) Although I think DeSean should be demoted to 3-wide sets with Godwin replacing him in 2-wide sets, Jackson will probably stick around in 2018 and still get his share of targets 5.) Humphries is a reliable slot-guy who will get his share, too.

In sum, I'm afraid Godwin's statistical ceiling might be capped as a fantasy WR3 for the foreseeable future, due to Wintson not being elite and the competition for targets in Tampa's offense.

Most optimistically, Godwin could be another Reggie Wayne; slow start to his career statistically, but becomes a statistic superstar eventually. Like, four years from now.
PingPwng wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:23 pm Said Humphries leaving would open up a great role for him in the slot. I see Jarvis Landry upside.
He's a restricted free-agent, so if Tampa wants to keep him at all, it'll be easy for them to do so, at least for another year. If they slap a 2nd-round tender on him, no team will poach him.
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby hankmurphy » Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:47 pm

He looked great today. He made a spectacular one-handed catch, later had a pretty impressive broken tackle, and was only inches away from a 2nd touchdown on another play.

Assuming Jackson doesn't stick around, I don't see why he can't be a productive WR2 in this offense.

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby Defender » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:22 am

Because of the number of factors here, it is truly hard to tell. Unless TB cuts Jackson which seems unlikely, I don’t think Godwin will be consistent enough to be in your lineups aside from a bye-week full in. At the same time, I wouldn’t surprise me if he has a number of sporadic big games that help him land in the WR4-WR5 range by the end of 2018.
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby hjernazian » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:41 am

D JAX has a backloaded contract that the Buc's won't cut next year. Best bet is he slides in as a slot WR. For the future, He's the #2 on the team (depending on draft) I have him and am holding strong.
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QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

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QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby Snottbubbles » Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:24 pm

Yeah, I have had Shaheen, Godwin and Jonnu all year. Decided to drop Jonnu and grab kittle instead of wait on Delanie to retire. Anytime Evans or Jackson have missed Godwin gets 10 or so targets so looks good for next year. I would find room for Shaheen with Fox being fired for sure. Looks just like Gronk with the ball.

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby hjernazian » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:53 am

skip wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2017 12:52 pm The Buccaneers have Mike Evans and then a bunch of average wide receivers. Godwin should have little problem taking over the role as the number two in that offense next season.
how do you figure? D Jax has a very backloaded contract that marries him to the team for quite some time. Assuming a regression or injury would be the only scenarios I could see them deviating from him as the #2. I've heard murmers of Godwin moving into their WR3, but that wouldn't mean much after Howard/Brate, Evans, DJax, (likely drafted/acquired RB).
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QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby Jfever » Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 am

ninotoreS wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:25 pm Godwin is good. He can ball. The issues are 1.) Mike Evans is better (even with his down year he's still one of the very few players in NFL history with four consecutive 1k yard receiving seasons, I think he's bound for Canton) 2.) Jameis Winston may not be more than a strictly average starting QB 3.) OJ Howard's target-share should grow 4.) Although I think DeSean should be demoted to 3-wide sets with Godwin replacing him in 2-wide sets, Jackson will probably stick around in 2018 and still get his share of targets 5.) Humphries is a reliable slot-guy who will get his share, too.

In sum, I'm afraid Godwin's statistical ceiling might be capped as a fantasy WR3 for the foreseeable future, due to Wintson not being elite and the competition for targets in Tampa's offense.

Most optimistically, Godwin could be another Reggie Wayne; slow start to his career statistically, but becomes a statistic superstar eventually. Like, four years from now.
PingPwng wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:23 pm Said Humphries leaving would open up a great role for him in the slot. I see Jarvis Landry upside.
He's a restricted free-agent, so if Tampa wants to keep him at all, it'll be easy for them to do so, at least for another year. If they slap a 2nd-round tender on him, no team will poach him.

Well. Not to derail ( I like Godwin - but I don't think he'll ever be more than a wr3 in fantasy. There is value in that, but, not so much to worry about in a shallow league). .... but, this inclusion above that I bolded literally made me spit up chicken noodle soup on my keyboard. Sitting at my desk eating lunch. Talk about wishful thinking. Now.... I have a mess. thanks Ninotores.

:wtf: :lol:
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby drbuttermaker » Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:08 pm

JFever wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 am
ninotoreS wrote: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:25 pm Godwin is good. He can ball. The issues are 1.) Mike Evans is better (even with his down year he's still one of the very few players in NFL history with four consecutive 1k yard receiving seasons, I think he's bound for Canton)

Well. Not to derail ( I like Godwin - but I don't think he'll ever be more than a wr3 in fantasy. There is value in that, but, not so much to worry about in a shallow league). .... but, this inclusion above that I bolded literally made me spit up chicken noodle soup on my keyboard. Sitting at my desk eating lunch. Talk about wishful thinking. Now.... I have a mess. thanks Ninotores.

:wtf: :lol:

It is a mess you deserve if you honestly think "Mike Evans is a future Hall of Famer" is wishful thinking.

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby TheRookiePro » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 pm

Question to all Godwin owners; would you trade him AND a late 3rd round pick for Michael Crabtree?
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby hankmurphy » Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:46 pm

TheRookiePro wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 pm Question to all Godwin owners; would you trade him AND a late 3rd round pick for Michael Crabtree?

I wouldn't. Crabs is 30 years old.

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

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hankmurphy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:46 pm
TheRookiePro wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 pm Question to all Godwin owners; would you trade him AND a late 3rd round pick for Michael Crabtree?

I wouldn't. Crabs is 30 years old.
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby hjernazian » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:23 pm

hankmurphy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:46 pm
TheRookiePro wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 pm Question to all Godwin owners; would you trade him AND a late 3rd round pick for Michael Crabtree?

I wouldn't. Crabs is 30 years old.
This. I wouldn't simply because of age. I may however if I think Crab is going to put me over the top as my WR4/5.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby TheRookiePro » Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:35 pm

hjernazian wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:23 pm
hankmurphy wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:46 pm
TheRookiePro wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:33 pm Question to all Godwin owners; would you trade him AND a late 3rd round pick for Michael Crabtree?
I wouldn't. Crabs is 30 years old.
This. I wouldn't simply because of age. I may however if I think Crab is going to put me over the top as my WR4/5.
Funny thing is, the owner finished 2nd this season. His team isn't great but he decided to trade for Julio and go all-in. His WR are:
Julio, Landry, Agholor, Godwin, Desean, Maclin, Doctson, Treadwell, and John Ross.

Also one more thing worth noting. He actually dropped Crabtree 2 years ago after he signed with the Raiders. I picked him up less than a week later for 1% of my waiver money. There's a good possibility that he's built up hatred towards him lol.
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RB-Gurley, M. Gordon, Jeff Wilson, Tevin Coleman,T. Montgomery, John Kelly, Justin Davis
WR-K. Allen, T. Hill, Josh Gordon, Golladay, Fitzgerald, S. Watkins, J. Reynolds, Enunwa,
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Re: Chris Godwin - fantasy relevant in 2018?

Postby ninotoreS » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:25 am

JFever wrote: Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:18 am Well. Not to derail ( I like Godwin - but I don't think he'll ever be more than a wr3 in fantasy. There is value in that, but, not so much to worry about in a shallow league). .... but, this inclusion above that I bolded literally made me spit up chicken noodle soup on my keyboard. Sitting at my desk eating lunch. Talk about wishful thinking. Now.... I have a mess. thanks Ninotores.

:wtf: :lol:
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There's, iirc, only three (might be four?) other players in NFL history to post four consecutive 1k seasons to start their careers. He's still just 24, and thus is comfortably on pace to be a career-stats monster. '17 was the worst season of his young career, and yet he still earned the 14th best PFF grade at WR.

Evans has 4,579 yards and 32 touchdowns in four pro seasons with I'm guessing 6-10 more seasons left to play as a modest estimate. If he gets to 13k yards he's probably a lock for the Hall.

Soup on your keyboard short-circuiting your keys would make it pretty hard to type that reply, by the way.
Talk about wishful thinking
I own zero shares of Evans and could not care less about the Bucs as a fan. Swing and a miss.


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