Is there ever a good time to start the league over with the same owners?

[sloth8u]

Looking for thoughts and opinions here. A league I'm in is getting pretty uneven and some are proposing starting over. Been going on 7 years, with 5 new owners, but all will have been there at least 2yrs (2018 will be 3).

[Phaded]

Defeats the purpose of a dynasty league..

[slaughterrt]

Only time is if all owners agree

[Tvols]

Sounds like they need to draft and trade better .. I agree why have a Dynasty if ur just going to start over every few years .. just do a keeper then .. ur owners might be better suited ..

[hockeyBjj]

I joined a league (team 1) that got very uneven due to skill difference of owners and they had half of the owners drop and needed new owners (this is when I joined). They decided to do 6 keepers each so they all got to keep their top players but then the rest go thrown into a pot. They also got rid of IDP and went back to team defense. Trading was also opened up before the roster cuts, so there were a lot of moves of top 6 guys to teams that didn't have a defined top 6 which made it fun. I traded Eddie Lacy (who was ranked as my #7 or 8) to a Packer fan for a 1st who then put him on his top 6. Worked out for me

The players in the pool were drafted like a rookie draft, not a snake, so that the bottom team last year got better picks and the winners not as good underneath their top 6 which were definitely better studs.

The good teams were still good, the bad teams still bad, but an owner that knows what they're doing wasn't more than 1 year out of making playoffs after this at least

I'd recommend that before completely drafting anew.

[sloth8u]

I joined a league (team 1) that got very uneven due to skill difference of owners and they had half of the owners drop and needed new owners (this is when I joined). They decided to do 6 keepers each so they all got to keep their top players but then the rest go thrown into a pot.

i think i'll bring this idea in front of the league. i believe the skill level of everyone is close now...whereas things were pretty lopsided in the past. its led to others not wanting to donate each year without a chance. now that the "knowledge gap" has closed between the top few teams...........we need to do something, or we're just going to keep replacing.

[Goddard]

Only time is if all owners agree

This. Doesn't seem fair to punish the owners who are doing well against their will.

[bigchiefbc]

I've never been in a league that talked about doing this due to competitive issues, only rule changes. My main league switched formats pretty heavily about 4 years ago (went from 1 QB to superflex and added devy), changes that everyone wanted. We were prepared to start over because of the massive changes, but the great majority of the league voted against starting over, they liked their teams even with the big changes in QB and draft pick value.

[Valhalla]

A few potential solutions:
1. (the one I prefer) Don't do anything. In time they will get better and the league will even out. Talent distribution will ebb and flow with some rosters getting stronger, then weaker, other rosters generally staying weak to mediocre with an occasional spike, and some being consistently good with an occasional dip. That's the nature of a league. If you want to be in the consistently good group, put in the time.
2. Agree to wait a few years. Say the league will reset in a few years, so the guys that have stacked draft picks or young talent don't get completely screwed.
3. Switch the league to a contract league. To keep the implementation from screwing the loaded teams out of their assets immediately, you could have a max contract limit per player upon initial implementation, and then have contract escalators for performance from there. This would help to keep teams from becoming too dominant, but wouldn't immediately strip the loaded teams of their talent. Use some sort of mass dynasty ADP to apply contract values to players.

[skip]

It's pretty simple, really...is everyone on board? If you have all owners agreeable then go ahead and reset. I think sometimes that is a GOOD thing for the health of the league. It can re-kindle things in a league that can be at the point of dying or losing owners due to disinterest.

[sloth8u]

no loaded owner wants to give up their team. lol.....thats the issue here. a couple teams are stacked (including the commish)....who also recruited the "knowledgeable owners"..

he knows "what's in store" with a redraft. his buddies "want' "IT"...but he knows us 5 will "square" things up with a redraft.

[Killabrewster]

Does anyone else on this site run Empire leagues instead of Dynasty? Both of my leagues are Empire as opposed to Dynasty as it was the only way to get my buddies to buy in, but it's a fun concept. There's a running pot each year that will go to whoever wins the league in back-to-back years, at which point the league resets. It definitely makes valuing future draft picks and win-now trades quite a bit different than in normal dynasty formats.

[Servo]

Empire Clause/League is one of the easier ways in incorporate a "reset" on a league.

[lukkynumber13]

Does anyone else on this site run Empire leagues instead of Dynasty? Both of my leagues are Empire as opposed to Dynasty as it was the only way to get my buddies to buy in, but it's a fun concept. There's a running pot each year that will go to whoever wins the league in back-to-back years, at which point the league resets. It definitely makes valuing future draft picks and win-now trades quite a bit different than in normal dynasty formats.

How often does that happen tho?

[Tsunami]

Joined a 24 team dynasty league last year. This year 8 players dropped out. So the league voted to start over with 16. I voted against.