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Ty Montgomery future

Postby gameaholica » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:25 am

Any guesses to if he regains his rb role? Back to wr? He is 24 years old and is coming back from ribs and wrist injury.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby M-Dub » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:18 am

As an owner, I’m keeping my fingers crossed. I don’t see GB bringing in any additional competition. All three RBs looked good in that offense when healthy and given a full workload. At the very least, the Packers don’t seem inclined to roll with an RBBC approach, so we should have some clarity by the start of next season at the latest.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby MontrealBen » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:01 am

If someone is willing to offer a 2nd, take it. If not, there's not much you can do but hold tight and see what happens. If there's a sell window in the offseason, though, don't miss it. I have a hard time envisioning him being the lead back in any committee there. He had 3 usable games from the 8 he played, and Williams and Jones have both clearly outperformed him when they've had lead back duties.

Thinking out loud, though -- Adams is a free agent. If he decides to walk, what's more likely: an Allison (or other WR) promotion, a draft pick getting a starting gig, a FA signing, or TyMont moving back to WR with Cobb and Jordy? I kinda think the last option is the most likely, in which case he regains some value (and, again, I'd be looking to sell).

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:57 am

I don't think it's likely that he regains his lead back role. He wasn't doing anything with it to begin with and Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones looked better than him. A large part of Montgomery's value was situation, not talent. And we know how that usually ends up.

I could see Montgomery getting some use in a Theo Riddick type role going forward.

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby Tvols » Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:14 am

He will be at best 3rd down back ... Williams and jones are better and earned that right even Rodgers made that statement that he liked jones the best
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby M-Dub » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:57 am I don't think it's likely that he regains his lead back role. He wasn't doing anything with it to begin with and Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones looked better than him. A large part of Montgomery's value was situation, not talent. And we know how that usually ends up.

I could see Montgomery getting some use in a Theo Riddick type role going forward.
He was the overall RB4 in PPR before he broke his ribs. Granted, three games is a minuscule sample size, but it’s a little disingenuous to say he wasn’t doing anything as the lead back. You could certainly argue that he was volume-dependent, but so are Williams and Jones, as well as virtually every other fantasy relevant RB in the league.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby ericanadian » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:42 am

All three of these guys have had fairly limited sample sizes. To make any definitive statements on who is better than the others seems a bit foolish, but good luck with that. I'm holding for now. I don't have much faith in Williams and being the second best back on a team like Green Bay has value with the number of injuries we see every year.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby npainter » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:20 pm

I could see him moving into a CMC, James White type roll with more catches than carries but still allows the team to run the full playbook. He looked decent as a RB but as NFL player has more value in an "Offensive Weapon" role. Probably not going to be a RB1 but could very well be a solid RB3/Flex with upside moving forward. Selling for an early second, buying for a late 2nd probably is the correct current value.

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby prinefan » Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:37 pm

Seems very breakable. At best the 3rd down back in an RBBC.

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby gausec » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:41 pm

I think he has potential to take the starting gig back, but I wouldn't bet on it. I see him getting around 10 touches a game in the future, which could provide some value. I remember one game they said they missed Ty's blocking ability and knowing the protections, I'd assume the other two would pick it up over the course of the season/in the offseason. However, if they don't maybe Ty carves more of a role.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:16 pm

M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 am He was the overall RB4 in PPR before he broke his ribs. Granted, three games is a minuscule sample size, but it’s a little disingenuous to say he wasn’t doing anything as the lead back. You could certainly argue that he was volume-dependent, but so are Williams and Jones, as well as virtually every other fantasy relevant RB in the league.
Montgomery was propped up by volume and receptions, which led to good fantasy production. His actual football numbers weren't good, especially as a rusher:

19/54
10/35
12/35
5/28
10/28

Montgomery is nothing special running the ball.

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby gameaholica » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:20 pm

So... could be a Kamara role. Seems similar in use and productivity.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby ericanadian » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:13 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:16 pm
M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:30 am He was the overall RB4 in PPR before he broke his ribs. Granted, three games is a minuscule sample size, but it’s a little disingenuous to say he wasn’t doing anything as the lead back. You could certainly argue that he was volume-dependent, but so are Williams and Jones, as well as virtually every other fantasy relevant RB in the league.
Montgomery was propped up by volume and receptions, which led to good fantasy production. His actual football numbers weren't good, especially as a rusher:

19/54
10/35
12/35
5/28
10/28

Montgomery is nothing special running the ball.
Williams & Jones beat up on Dallas, New Orleans & Tampa. Not exactly stellar defenses. Otherwise, they've looked pretty mediocre as well. It's not like Green Bay's line is elite if you're looking at strictly rushing production.
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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby Cameron Giles » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:31 pm

ericanadian wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:13 pm Williams & Jones beat up on Dallas, New Orleans & Tampa. Not exactly stellar defenses. Otherwise, they've looked pretty mediocre as well. It's not like Green Bay's line is elite if you're looking at strictly rushing production.
I agree with you. I don't think there's a standout back in GB, which isn't good news long-term for any of them.

The idea of "Packers Starting RB" means more than any of their individual names and talents.

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Re: Ty Montgomery future

Postby Big Al » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:23 am

(Rotoworld) ESPN Packers reporter Rob Demovsky believes the time might be right for Green Bay to move Ty Montgomery back to wide receiver.
Analysis: Montgomery was nearly an every-down running back the first three weeks of last season, but the injuries started kicking in soon after. 41 of his 71 carries came in Weeks 1-3 before suffering a wrist injury five snaps into Week 4. He then sustained broken ribs just a couple weeks later. Montgomery was eventually placed on I.R. after carrying the ball just 14 times from Weeks 8-10. His body simply didn't hold up in the backfield, and the Packers have Jamaal Williams and Aaron Jones as arguably better options. At receiver, Montgomery could replace Randall Cobb in the slot.


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