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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:53 am

FiremanEd wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:32 am Thanks for the read Lukky.

Nelson has a lot of backing, but still seems wild to see a Guard at #4. The Cooper/Warmack selections didn’t work put great and were very high for the position at the time too (though draft grades justified it as prospects). Talent and need could make it happen though, so not disagreeing, just commenting on the selection.
Thanks for your feedback!

I'm certainly no evaluator of O-linemen but from what I've heard, Nelson may be the next Zach Martin. I'll take that! And given that O-Line sucks so bad this year, if we don't take one at 4 (who, yes, will be a reach no matter who it is) we might as well just wait until day 2-3 and take a project. Nelson is probably the only guy who deserves to go top 20 in a normal draft.
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby M-Dub » Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:26 am

No way the Browns take a QB at 1.01. They already spent a 1st on Kizer and they need major help on defense. I realize they just fired their GM, but to take a QB 1st overall would be unfathomably stupid, even for the Browns.
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby AussieMate » Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:58 am

M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:26 am No way the Browns take a QB at 1.01. They already spent a 1st on Kizer and they need major help on defense. I realize they just fired their GM, but to take a QB 1st overall would be unfathomably stupid, even for the Browns.
kizer was a second rnd pick and not an early one (52nd overall). Also the browns team isn't as bad as people report, if they even had hoyer or mccown they would be on at least 4 wins this year maybe more. If either Rosen (my preference) or darnold checks out as a good prospect they would be stupid not to draft them. I understood skipping on Goff and Wentz, alot of people weren't convinced and they got value for trading, but they should definitely take the punt this year in my opinion.

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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby BradysBunch » Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:57 am

Wow people. He put up his opinion. No one can predict a draft. He is having fun. No need to make him defend his picks. In the words of someone I enjoy watching..."R-E-L-A-X."
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby FiremanEd » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:07 am

BradysBunch wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:57 am Wow people. He put up his opinion. No one can predict a draft. He is having fun. No need to make him defend his picks. In the words of someone I enjoy watching..."R-E-L-A-X."
He posted it to create discussion. No one has been rude, rather have provided their thoughts or asked for insights into his selections. That’s what a forum does. He can respond or not. I would be shocked if Lukky felt attacked by the thread in any way. I think you’re taking the thread the wrong way.

I agree regarding what I’ve read on Nelson Lukky. Things like ‘step in All-Pro’ have been thrown around. It definitely could happen. Guess I just think the positional value may lack and that they have other holes with nice options available (on defense) that could let them move down and still get a high value prospect of value to them. That worth could be even better if a third QB really steps into that value range for teams to chase.

I haven’t watched enough of Kirk, but like someone else stated, I fail to see 1st round potential. I’ll be interested to see what the process and advanced film watching brings to light for him. I have the same feeling in what I’ve seen from Cain.

I’m interested to see Love’s measurables. I think Guice will trump him based on those as the process goes along.

Thanks again for the read. Enjoyed it, noting things will obviously flip all around as we move along, but could be neat to look back on come April to compare and see how things changed.

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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:52 am

FiremanEd wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:07 am I agree regarding what I’ve read on Nelson Lukky. Things like ‘step in All-Pro’ have been thrown around. It definitely could happen. Guess I just think the positional value may lack and that they have other holes with nice options available (on defense) that could let them move down and still get a high value prospect of value to them. That worth could be even better if a third QB really steps into that value range for teams to chase.
If we can get Bradley Chubb I'll be fine with that. He reminds me of Derek Barnett.

Other than him tho, there isn't any other defensive player I would want us to take that early. Maybe Minkah Fitzpatrick but only if he could be converted back to CB.
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:53 am

BradysBunch wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:57 am Wow people. He put up his opinion. No one can predict a draft. He is having fun. No need to make him defend his picks. In the words of someone I enjoy watching..."R-E-L-A-X."
I appreciate it bro. Haha it's all good, like FiremanEd said as long as it's all healthy discussion I'm happy with it :)

Where are you when I'm defending Sammy and Dez???? That's when I really feel like I need a defense attorney! :lol:
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby M-Dub » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:04 pm

AussieMate wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:58 am
M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:26 am No way the Browns take a QB at 1.01. They already spent a 1st on Kizer and they need major help on defense. I realize they just fired their GM, but to take a QB 1st overall would be unfathomably stupid, even for the Browns.
kizer was a second rnd pick and not an early one (52nd overall). Also the browns team isn't as bad as people report, if they even had hoyer or mccown they would be on at least 4 wins this year maybe more. If either Rosen (my preference) or darnold checks out as a good prospect they would be stupid not to draft them. I understood skipping on Goff and Wentz, alot of people weren't convinced and they got value for trading, but they should definitely take the punt this year in my opinion.
My bad. I could’ve sworn Kizer was taken in the late 1st. Still, they knew he was a project when they drafted him, and it’s not like a 2nd rounder is just a throwaway pick. Giving up on a 21-year-old QB after a difficult rookie season seems incredibly short-sighted, especially given all the holes on D they need to fill. I agree that the Browns aren’t nearly as bad as their record indicates, but QB is way down the list of issues they need to address, IMO.
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QB: Hurts, Howell
RB: Mixon, Jones, Sanders, Dobbins, Akers, Roschon, Dowdle, Kelley
WR: Nuk, Godwin, Cooper, Lockett, Flowers, Chark, Collins, Hollins, Tillman, Tolbert
TE: Hockenson, Chig, Trautman
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WR: Nuk $78/1, MT $25/1, M. Williams $1/0, JSN $21/5, Reed $4/5, Rice $4/5, M. Wilson $2/5
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Postby AussieMate » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:10 pm

M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:04 pm
AussieMate wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 3:58 am
M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:26 am No way the Browns take a QB at 1.01. They already spent a 1st on Kizer and they need major help on defense. I realize they just fired their GM, but to take a QB 1st overall would be unfathomably stupid, even for the Browns.
kizer was a second rnd pick and not an early one (52nd overall). Also the browns team isn't as bad as people report, if they even had hoyer or mccown they would be on at least 4 wins this year maybe more. If either Rosen (my preference) or darnold checks out as a good prospect they would be stupid not to draft them. I understood skipping on Goff and Wentz, alot of people weren't convinced and they got value for trading, but they should definitely take the punt this year in my opinion.
My bad. I could’ve sworn Kizer was taken in the late 1st. Still, they knew he was a project when they drafted him, and it’s not like a 2nd rounder is just a throwaway pick. Giving up on a 21-year-old QB after a difficult rookie season seems incredibly short-sighted, especially given all the holes on D they need to fill. I agree that the Browns aren’t nearly as bad as their record indicates, but QB is way down the list of issues they need to address, IMO.
All fair points, though I would argue that 2nd rnd picks for the browns are one thing they can throwaway ha. They've only had about 7 in the past 3 years, I'm not even a browns fan (go colts) but I do want to see them succeed after all this time if being the whipping boy of the league. I actually love what they did with the last 2 drafts besides the huge amount of swings at wrs

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Postby Friction » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:20 pm

Tough to say for the Browns. If they pass on a Qb and Rosen or Darnold turn out to be studs, will they be forgiven for doing So? Especially after Goff, Wentz, and Watson have looked pretty solid to say the least. They do have holes to fill, but a qb driven league requires investing there. I do agree on Kizer is not necessarily a bust though, so it is quite the predicament. Or will be. Who knows what kind of offers they will get for 1.01 too.
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Postby Tvols » Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:22 pm

Just wondering Luckky if u liked Kirk more than Sutton.. I hope Dallas takes a wr we desperately need one .. I know ur a big Dez love and that’s total fine but dak and dez just don’t seem on the same page or dez has which I think slid down with age .. he is missing balls he shouldn’t maybe he is pressing but I loved to see Sutton across from him .

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Lotto4Life wrote: Fri Dec 15, 2017 2:35 pm As someone who has owned Kirk for the last two college FFL seasons, I don't get the love so many have for him.
Him and Ridley do absolutely nothing for me
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Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:55 am

M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:04 pm the Browns aren’t nearly as bad as their record indicates, but QB is way down the list of issues they need to address, IMO.
:shock: Browns are definitely going to take a QB and it's pretty high on their list of issues imo. Kizer leads the league in INTs.

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Postby M-Dub » Sun Dec 17, 2017 6:35 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:55 am
M-Dub wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:04 pm the Browns aren’t nearly as bad as their record indicates, but QB is way down the list of issues they need to address, IMO.
:shock: Browns are definitely going to take a QB and it's pretty high on their list of issues imo. Kizer leads the league in INTs.
He’s 21. He was raw coming out. He probably shouldn’t even be starting. If the Brown aren’t willing to give him another couple years to work out the kinks, they shouldn’t have drafted him in the first place.
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Re: 2018 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 (First Round Only!)

Postby flyersfan1981 » Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:33 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:45 pm
Tvols wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 5:41 pm Why Kirk to the cowboys and not Sutton ?
I am far from an expert when it comes to incoming skill players, but from what I know I think Kirk's skill set would fit better with the Dallas offense, as a complement across from Dez.
Dez is quickly becoming irrelevant...the Cowboys need a new Dez in a Dez frame. That is Sutton, not Kirk!

But overall, great mock and thanks for getting the party started!!
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