Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

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Pick the 2 you'd most want to own going into 2018

Kenyan Drake
32
18%
Alex Collins
38
21%
Marlon Mack
8
4%
Donta Foreman
31
17%
Tevin Coleman
35
20%
Jamal Williams
10
6%
Isaiah Crowell
8
4%
Semaje Perine
9
5%
Jerick McKinnon
8
4%
 
Total votes: 179

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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm

benpickering44 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:03 pm Jeez recency bias is one helluva drug. It's Tevin Coleman and it isn't particularly close.
For sure there is certainly some recency bias going on, as Collins and Drake have had monster games on national TV this month, but what is so exceptional about Coleman? He's never looked like a stud when he's been a feature back, at least not in my opinion.
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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby ArrylT » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:36 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm
benpickering44 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:03 pm Jeez recency bias is one helluva drug. It's Tevin Coleman and it isn't particularly close.
For sure there is certainly some recency bias going on, as Collins and Drake have had monster games on national TV this month, but what is so exceptional about Coleman? He's never looked like a stud when he's been a feature back, at least not in my opinion.
congratulations lukky13 on this being your 6666 th post*. Your bad karma quota has been fulfilled and from here on out you're only going to have good things happen to your teams (so long as you publicly announce that Donte Moncrief is worth 1.03 or more to you). :)

* - Just seems like an odd coincidence that I noticed an owner whose handle ends in 13 had their 6666th post. ;)
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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:48 pm

ArrylT wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:36 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm
benpickering44 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:03 pm Jeez recency bias is one helluva drug. It's Tevin Coleman and it isn't particularly close.
For sure there is certainly some recency bias going on, as Collins and Drake have had monster games on national TV this month, but what is so exceptional about Coleman? He's never looked like a stud when he's been a feature back, at least not in my opinion.
congratulations lukky13 on this being your 6666 th post*. Your bad karma quota has been fulfilled and from here on out you're only going to have good things happen to your teams (so long as you publicly announce that Donte Moncrief is worth 1.03 or more to you). :)

* - Just seems like an odd coincidence that I noticed an owner whose handle ends in 13 had their 6666th post. ;)
hahaha thanks! :dance:
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HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby skip » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:06 am

ArrylT wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:36 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm
benpickering44 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:03 pm Jeez recency bias is one helluva drug. It's Tevin Coleman and it isn't particularly close.
For sure there is certainly some recency bias going on, as Collins and Drake have had monster games on national TV this month, but what is so exceptional about Coleman? He's never looked like a stud when he's been a feature back, at least not in my opinion.
congratulations lukky13 on this being your 6666 th post*. Your bad karma quota has been fulfilled and from here on out you're only going to have good things happen to your teams (so long as you publicly announce that Donte Moncrief is worth 1.03 or more to you). :)

* - Just seems like an odd coincidence that I noticed an owner whose handle ends in 13 had their 6666th post. ;)
ArrylT, Since you were looking (or waiting) for them:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=152388&p=1369070&hi ... f#p1369070
In this comment, lukky says that Moncrief has "potential" but leaves him out being able to "sustain long term value".

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=150909&p=1357244&hi ... f#p1357244
States that the 2nd round pick in the trade may be more valuable than Moncrief.
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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby jcc6fd » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:52 am

The list is not one that I would have thought to put together, though the thoughts and insight are very interesting.

Would have thought players with proven production and pedigree like Coleman and Crow would have been run-away winners but Crow is getting no love, despite his quiet resurgence in the second half of the season, and Coleman trails both Drake and Collins who appear to only have an edge in current (2017) opportunity.

Crow is a FA this offseason and I believe he'll be signed to be a team's, even if it's the Browns, lead back. I get that the Freeman timeshare is undesirable for Coleman but he's been consistently good with his opportunities. Seems like the poll results are reflective of a redraft mindset.
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Postby Dirty Mike&the Boys » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 am

Mack and Perine. Mack could be special, if management over there in Indy could get their heads out of their bleep*s
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Postby Bot101 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:20 am

kumetis93 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 am Mack and Perine. Mack could be special, if management over there in Indy could get their heads out of their bleep*s
I dont see Mack ever being a 3 down type back. He seems like the type that produces more with limited touches.

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Postby Pac_Eddy » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:19 am

No love for Jamaal Williams. Been killing it for a month in Green Bay. Huh.
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Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:26 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:19 am No love for Jamaal Williams. Been killing it for a month in Green Bay. Huh.
I found that very interesting as well! He wasn't one of my picks here, but I could make the argument that he has the highest ceiling out of all these dudes next year. IF he keeps the job and plays all 3 downs, he will be Aaron Rodgers' caddy. That's almost a lock for RB1 numbers.
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Postby bsp27 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:27 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:20 pm
benpickering44 wrote: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:03 pm Jeez recency bias is one helluva drug. It's Tevin Coleman and it isn't particularly close.
For sure there is certainly some recency bias going on, as Collins and Drake have had monster games on national TV this month, but what is so exceptional about Coleman? He's never looked like a stud when he's been a feature back, at least not in my opinion.
He is much more athletic than any other running back here, has the longest and most thorough sample size of efficiency and production at the NFL level, and was the most productive in college.
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Re: Which of these 3rd-tier RBs do you believe in?

Postby Pet_Smith » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:33 pm

For me it was Coleman waaaaaay ahead of the rest.
I voted Foreman too, but that's conditional on the Achilles recovery. Crow was the only other I'd have considered voting for.

Collins / Drake etc are prime sell high / get what you can for them in my opinion - but then I had Collins on taxi all last year up to the point he got cut by the 'Hawks, and then dropped him, so what do I know!!!
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Postby joshb » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:41 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:26 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:19 am No love for Jamaal Williams. Been killing it for a month in Green Bay. Huh.
I found that very interesting as well! He wasn't one of my picks here, but I could make the argument that he has the highest ceiling out of all these dudes next year. IF he keeps the job and plays all 3 downs, he will be Aaron Rodgers' caddy. That's almost a lock for RB1 numbers.
I really have a hard time seeing him escaping a RBBC. In my opinion Jones is still the better pure runner, and if he is able to improve his pass blocking he'll siphon enough touches from Williams to make both of them less valuable.
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Postby nathanq42 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:58 pm

For me its Collins and Coleman, both look good, Collins has a clearer path to lead dog status, but I think Coleman is a superior talent with a tougher path to touches
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Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:59 pm

If Derrick Henry was included here, would you rank him above every other RB?
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Postby Pet_Smith » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:55 am

I'd have him tied with Coleman - but probably a touch ahead
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