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Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:20 am

I'm trying to figure out what this guy is worth, and more importantly, if I want him.

I am thinking I can likely get him for a mid 2nd and 3rd. But how do we feel about him? QB situation scares, J. Gordon getting his bleep together also scares me, and I don't just another WR4/5 on my team, I'm hoping for stable flex value. Also, if I were to get him, I can likely consolidate a few of my WR3-6's to a WR1/2 which is my ultimate goal as I absolutely HATE having too many WR4-6's and picking the wrong one to start.

His ceiling? His floor? and finally, a realistic expectation.
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Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:49 am

No matter what you feel about him, if you can get him for a 2nd and 3rd, do it. That's too good to pass up. He's still worth a mid First all day long, IMO
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:30 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:49 am No matter what you feel about him, if you can get him for a 2nd and 3rd, do it. That's too good to pass up. He's still worth a mid First all day long, IMO
That's fair. If its okay - wondering what your read on him as a player is? where is his ceiling/floor with this atrocious offense? Kizer is clearly not ready, and they may very well draft a WR or trade for one. If he eventually plays 3rd-4th fiddle to Gordon (or whoever they draft early at WR) Njoku, and their running back (current or future) is a 3rd-4th option on the Browns for the forseeable future worth it?

I ask because if we're thinking future, he would just mix in with guys like Watkins, Crowder and C. Davis for the next year or two.

Thank you.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:33 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:49 am No matter what you feel about him, if you can get him for a 2nd and 3rd, do it. That's too good to pass up. He's still worth a mid First all day long, IMO
Also, I say I CAN get him for that, because I believe so. Owner was ready to pull the trigger last week if I also included Njoku and my 2019 second, which I felt was asking too much as Njoku (imo) can have just as a meaningful fantasy role as Coleman on the Browns...

... unless of course the Browns somehow get their bleep together, which is proving to look unlikely as the years roll along.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:26 am

hjernazian wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:30 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:49 am No matter what you feel about him, if you can get him for a 2nd and 3rd, do it. That's too good to pass up. He's still worth a mid First all day long, IMO
That's fair. If its okay - wondering what your read on him as a player is? where is his ceiling/floor with this atrocious offense? Kizer is clearly not ready, and they may very well draft a WR or trade for one. If he eventually plays 3rd-4th fiddle to Gordon (or whoever they draft early at WR) Njoku, and their running back (current or future) is a 3rd-4th option on the Browns for the forseeable future worth it?

I ask because if we're thinking future, he would just mix in with guys like Watkins, Crowder and C. Davis for the next year or two.

Thank you.
I think his ceiling is Brandin Cooks or TY Hilton. His floor is what we've seen from John Brown and Tyler Lockett when they've been healthy.

He will never be 3rd or 4th in line for targets. 2nd at worst.
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby skip » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:54 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:26 am I think his ceiling is Brandin Cooks or TY Hilton.
Completely agree with this. This is an absurdly cheap price. If I were an owner I wouldn't even consider anything outside of a top 5 pick as a starting point. I don't share the concern about him being the "3rd-4th" option for the Browns when he's the best WR on the team even with the return of Gordon.
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Tvols » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:35 am

Browns end there qb problems in draft and Coleman is worth a mid first at worst i would pay 2/3. All day
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby sjcourtney56 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:56 am

He was completely dropped in my league a few weeks ago. League has roster size of 24 and we keep 18 a season. I was thrilled to scoop him up off waivers and really believe that he will be a solid player in this league, especially if Cleveland lands a QB.
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Postby Lotto4Life » Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:12 am

Not sure why but I keep thinking Steve Smith (the good one) as a ceiling.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby keebs3 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 am

I got him for Crowell about a month ago, it that helps..
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:37 am

i got him ftom.a contender team a month back for Garcon.

i was ecstatic with the trade
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby wildabeast49 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:57 am

Lotto4Life wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:12 am Not sure why but I keep thinking Steve Smith (the good one) as a ceiling.
This was/is my exact comp for him.
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Weeman » Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:24 am

He is talented enough that you would have drafted with a top 2-4 rookie pick that year. Despite injuries to him & Kizer poor play. He has looked explosive off the line & creates separation. The Browns have the draft capital to make improvements if needed. I feel Kizer will look improved with Coleman, Gordon,Djoku & Duke catching passes!! Hold on longer & I feel you’ll be glad you did.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby JSylvester87 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:33 pm

I traded Treadwell, Duke Johnson and a 2nd for him a couple months ago and was ecstatic at that price.
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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:42 pm

JSylvester87 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:33 pm I traded Treadwell, Duke Johnson and a 2nd for him a couple months ago and was ecstatic at that price.
Robbery
Edit: thought this was the Corey DAVIS thread. Still a good price


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