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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Tsunami » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:28 pm

He has definitely shown he can play, and he was a high prospect. I don't know if he has a high ceiling the way Parker or Doctson might, he has more of a Doug Baldwin type upside. But other than the injury he appears to be a pretty safe bet for a long-term WR2 at least. High floor, low ceiling maybe.

As far as how he will do if Flash is great again, it has been a long time since we have seen a team with two consistent top WRs but it used to be common. I guess you could say he could be Sanders to Gordon's DT.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Bot101 » Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:35 pm

I got him as a throw in after his injury

Gave Keenan Allen, Rishard Higgins (after the week he semi blew up)
Got Stefon Diggs, Travis Kelce, Corey Coleman

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:54 am

woah, sounds like i seriously undervalue him. didn't go for the 2nd and 3rd although he had initially offered me him for around that price. instead, he wants to do a direct swap for Engram. I told him only if he included Mike Williams as well. I see this as a steal and have wanted Mike for some time now, although I love having Engram.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:57 am

Bot101 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:35 pm I got him as a throw in after his injury

Gave Keenan Allen, Rishard Higgins (after the week he semi blew up)
Got Stefon Diggs, Travis Kelce, Corey Coleman
wow. absolute steal.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Valhalla » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:47 pm

hjernazian wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:57 am
Bot101 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:35 pm I got him as a throw in after his injury

Gave Keenan Allen, Rishard Higgins (after the week he semi blew up)
Got Stefon Diggs, Travis Kelce, Corey Coleman
wow. absolute steal.
My thoughts too

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Bot101 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:55 pm

Valhalla wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:47 pm
hjernazian wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:57 am
Bot101 wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:35 pm I got him as a throw in after his injury

Gave Keenan Allen, Rishard Higgins (after the week he semi blew up)
Got Stefon Diggs, Travis Kelce, Corey Coleman
wow. absolute steal.
My thoughts too
He was very low on Diggs, and VERY high on Allen. 1 week after the trade he realized he made a mistake. But fear not, I reciprocated the one sided trade by sending him Cooper for a random 1st the day before the Raiders/Chiefs game :doh:

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Tsunami » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:05 pm

Tsunami wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:28 pm
As far as how he will do if Flash is great again, it has been a long time since we have seen a team with two consistent top WRs but it used to be common. I guess you could say he could be Sanders to Gordon's DT.
Or he could have 0 receptions for 0 yards.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Bot101 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:21 pm

Tsunami wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:05 pm
Tsunami wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:28 pm
As far as how he will do if Flash is great again, it has been a long time since we have seen a team with two consistent top WRs but it used to be common. I guess you could say he could be Sanders to Gordon's DT.
Or he could have 0 receptions for 0 yards.
Id put that more on Kizer than Coleman.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby flyersfan1981 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:10 pm

hjernazian wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:54 am woah, sounds like i seriously undervalue him. didn't go for the 2nd and 3rd although he had initially offered me him for around that price. instead, he wants to do a direct swap for Engram. I told him only if he included Mike Williams as well. I see this as a steal and have wanted Mike for some time now, although I love having Engram.
No, you are valuing him properly. His fanboys here are drastically overvaluing him, as they have since his showing at The Underwear Olympics coming out of a college offense designed to scheme him open.

He hasn't done anything in the NFL. He had value last off-season and I told people his value would be lower this off-season...most didn't listen. The guy can't make plays in NFL traffic, and when you don't have a good QB, you get non-production.

I mean at what point do people realize he is what he is, a very poor man's Desean Jackson?
#1-12 Team .5 PPR TE Premium (20-max)

Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07

#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)

Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle

#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2

Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen

#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem

Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby hjernazian » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:37 am

flyersfan1981 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 11:10 pm
hjernazian wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:54 am woah, sounds like i seriously undervalue him. didn't go for the 2nd and 3rd although he had initially offered me him for around that price. instead, he wants to do a direct swap for Engram. I told him only if he included Mike Williams as well. I see this as a steal and have wanted Mike for some time now, although I love having Engram.
No, you are valuing him properly. His fanboys here are drastically overvaluing him, as they have since his showing at The Underwear Olympics coming out of a college offense designed to scheme him open.

He hasn't done anything in the NFL. He had value last off-season and I told people his value would be lower this off-season...most didn't listen. The guy can't make plays in NFL traffic, and when you don't have a good QB, you get non-production.

I mean at what point do people realize he is what he is, a very poor man's Desean Jackson?
yeah i did a double take here. i actually got the deal i wanted which was coleman and mike williams for engram, and rejected it. i don't see either of these guys being more than a weekly matchup-based flex, and i got plenty of those on my roster.
Team 1

Superflex, 1.0 point PPR

QB: P. Mahomes $5, C. Newton $20, B. Mayfield $2, D. Brees
RB: D. Johnson $54, N. Chubb $4, T. Coleman $4, D. Henry $14, I. Crowell $3, J. Richard $9, J. Adams $3
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, C. Davis $4, C. Godwin $4, D. Hamilton $3, K. Cole, S. Shephard $10
TE: E. Engram $4, D. Njoku $2, K. Rudolph $3, V. McDonald $4
K/DEF: Irrelevant

2019: 2.04, 2.05, 2.06, 3.06, 4.06

Team 2

Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE - 25 man roster + 4 TAXI

QB: T. Brady, M. Ryan, N. Foles
RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, T. Coleman, S. Ware, D. Williams, Ito Smith, D. Sproles
WR: AJ Green, A. Robinson, A. Thielen, E. Sanders, G. Tate, S. Roberts
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, M. Roberts, V. Davis, M. Williams
TAXI: S. Darnold, D. Fountain, D. Cain, Jaleel Scott

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Lotto4Life » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:03 am

Yesterday was Steve Smith (the good one) with a broken arm.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby flyersfan1981 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:57 am

Lotto4Life wrote: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:03 am Yesterday was Steve Smith (the good one) with a broken arm.
The good thing is yesterday Steve Smith didn't drop a catchable ball near the goal line or get called for a critical holding penalty late in the game either. So all things considered, I would say Steve Smith is a pretty good comparison.
#1-12 Team .5 PPR TE Premium (20-max)

Winston, Wentz
Ingram, Jones, Dalvin Cook, Rawls, Smallwood, McGuire
Evans, Keenan, Parker, Corey Davis, Lockett, Ty Williams
Ertz
1.05/1.06/1.07

#2-12 Team .5 PPR (25-max)

Rivers, Wilson
Gurley, JStew, West, Duke, Breida, Smallwood, Joe Williams
Nuk, Alshon, Sanders, Doctson, Crowder, Carroo, Carlos Henderson
Ertz, Kittle

#3 14-team PPR (27-max) Year 2

Rodgers, Bortles
McCoy, Howard, Chubb, Crowell, Cohen, D. Martin, McGuire, Joe Williams, Breida, West, Aaron Jones
Cooks, Alshon, MBryant, Britt, Boyd, Wright, Carroo, Chad Williams
Kelce, Julius Thomas, Jesse James, Shaheen, D. Allen

#4 12-team PPR S-flex TE Prem

Wentz, Trubisky, Cutler
Kamara, Ajayi, Howard, Lacy, Mack, Elijah McGuire, Sproles, Turbin
Hopkins, Alshon, Parker, Stills, Britt, ArDarius, P Cooper, TWilliams
Brate, Green, D Allen, Higbee, Hodges, Anderson
1.02/1.10

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby vlax525 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 am

So would you value Coleman as late first early 2nd round pick value? I have been getting some offers for him but don’t know how to value him

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby Bot101 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:15 am

vlax525 wrote: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 am So would you value Coleman as late first early 2nd round pick value? I have been getting some offers for him but don’t know how to value him
Id sell for a late 1st. But I doubt anyone would give a late 1st, especially right now with the incoming rookies.

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Re: Corey Coleman trade value

Postby DJB » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:17 am

Nobody is going to pay a 1st at this point. He was drafted a few years ago and nowadays is a player doesn't show success within his first two years people move on from him. I do have higher hopes for him if Rosen or Darnold go to Cleveland . However hes still fighting for targets likely. Hes not the #1 guy, has injury issues and will have to compete with Djoku, the Cle RB and whoever else they add on offence.
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