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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby btv802 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:01 am

StableOfRBs wrote:
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Davis' rookie year was hot garbage if you zoom out on it and judge objectively. However, he put together quite a highlight reel of impressive individual plays
Sounds like Devante Parker
Haha yeah I imagine it accurately describes many rookie years of WRs taken with high draft capital, some who have achieved career success and some who have not. Could Corey Davis have a similar career path to Parker? Absolutely. Could Parker still have a great career? Absolutely.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby osubuckeyeman » Wed May 16, 2018 4:52 am

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Not concerned a bit. Titans drafted him 7th overall for a reason and he has to develop a bit. Not all rookies come out the gate like barn busters. He has flashed some of his skills and the injuries most likely slowed his development. He still seems to be a special prospect in my eyes and looking forward to his breakout.
They drafted him 5th overall.

I wouldn't worry too much about Davis. He's flashed some pretty nice catches so far this year. Mariota is having a bad year as well. Not sure how much injuries are affecting Mariota, but I don't believe he has been throwing deep much this year. Davis also hasn't had a chance to build rapport with Mariota. He was the 5th overall pick. Be patient. Trust the process.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby jtd1387 » Wed May 16, 2018 8:10 am

btv802 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:01 am
StableOfRBs wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:00 am
btv802 wrote:
Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:03 pm
Davis' rookie year was hot garbage if you zoom out on it and judge objectively. However, he put together quite a highlight reel of impressive individual plays
Sounds like Devante Parker
Haha yeah I imagine it accurately describes many rookie years of WRs taken with high draft capital, some who have achieved career success and some who have not. Could Corey Davis have a similar career path to Parker? Absolutely. Could Parker still have a great career? Absolutely.
I always kinda thought Parker was the Davis comp no one wanted to mention last year. Don't get me wrong, I thought Davis was more polished coming out, but their skillsets and size were pretty similar (to these amateur eyes) as prospects.

Like Parker after year 1, Davis is maintaining a lot of his value based on his highlight plays. Hopefully, he takes a step to being more consistent this year. If not, his value is going to follow the same path Parker's did after year 2.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby btv802 » Wed May 16, 2018 10:18 am

jtd1387 wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 8:10 am
btv802 wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 11:01 am
StableOfRBs wrote:
Thu Apr 26, 2018 10:00 am


Sounds like Devante Parker
Haha yeah I imagine it accurately describes many rookie years of WRs taken with high draft capital, some who have achieved career success and some who have not. Could Corey Davis have a similar career path to Parker? Absolutely. Could Parker still have a great career? Absolutely.
I always kinda thought Parker was the Davis comp no one wanted to mention last year. Don't get me wrong, I thought Davis was more polished coming out, but their skillsets and size were pretty similar (to these amateur eyes) as prospects.

Like Parker after year 1, Davis is maintaining a lot of his value based on his highlight plays. Hopefully, he takes a step to being more consistent this year. If not, his value is going to follow the same path Parker's did after year 2.
I loved Devante Parker coming out so doesn't bother me all that much.
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bumped for Mixon thread discussion.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:44 am

Been looking into WR's a bit and one interesting thing I found is there haven't been any tall (6'2"+) stud WR's that weigh 210lbs or less. Kind of an arbitrary number but I haven't found one, not recently at least. You can find some that put up good years (Sidney Rice) but none that have had long-term success. I tried looking up Randy Moss's combine weight but couldn't really find a reliable result, saw numbers ranging from 195-215 lbs. I didn't look back too far so maybe you guys could come up with some.

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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Kaz » Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:41 am

Allen Robinson (6'3 211) would be close, though he only has the one really good year.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:15 am

Kaz wrote:
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Allen Robinson (6'3 211) would be close, though he only has the one really good year.
He was 220lbs at the combine, 208 lbs at his pro day

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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Kaz » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:22 am

Ah, I was going by rotoworld which lists him at 211.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Orenthal Shames » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:09 pm

Matthews is going to have the better season and is the far better value at his price.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:44 am
Been looking into WR's a bit and one interesting thing I found is there haven't been any tall (6'2"+) stud WR's that weigh 210lbs or less. Kind of an arbitrary number but I haven't found one, not recently at least. You can find some that put up good years (Sidney Rice) but none that have had long-term success. I tried looking up Randy Moss's combine weight but couldn't really find a reliable result, saw numbers ranging from 195-215 lbs. I didn't look back too far so maybe you guys could come up with some.
AJ Green weighed 211 at the combine but man, if he plays at anything more than 205 I can't tell haha. Dude is a stick!
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:02 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 pm
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Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:44 am
Been looking into WR's a bit and one interesting thing I found is there haven't been any tall (6'2"+) stud WR's that weigh 210lbs or less. Kind of an arbitrary number but I haven't found one, not recently at least. You can find some that put up good years (Sidney Rice) but none that have had long-term success. I tried looking up Randy Moss's combine weight but couldn't really find a reliable result, saw numbers ranging from 195-215 lbs. I didn't look back too far so maybe you guys could come up with some.
AJ Green weighed 211 at the combine but man, if he plays at anything more than 205 I can't tell haha. Dude is a stick!
Haha yeah, that's why i said under that :P. Oddly enough it doesn't really have to do with BMI either, it's strictly a weight thing.

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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby _yeti » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:23 pm

Well... contact with WRs is illegal now and becoming illegal with all players so look for more gymnastics divas to continually pop up on the horizon. Not directed at Davis, but WR size is out the window for a metric of future WR production. There is a reason huge guys don't do gymnastics and a reason gymnasts don't play footba- wait nevermind that doesn't work here
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby ninotoreS » Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:57 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:38 pm
AJ Green weighed 211 at the combine but man, if he plays at anything more than 205 I can't tell haha. Dude is a stick!
At 6'4", if Green were tipping the scales at 205 he'd look even skinnier. Trust me.

Green's got skinny calves, but his quads are powerfully built. It's more noticeable when he's wearing the white uni.
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Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:44 am
Been looking into WR's a bit and one interesting thing I found is there haven't been any tall (6'2"+) stud WR's that weigh 210lbs or less. Kind of an arbitrary number but I haven't found one, not recently at least. You can find some that put up good years (Sidney Rice) but none that have had long-term success. I tried looking up Randy Moss's combine weight but couldn't really find a reliable result, saw numbers ranging from 195-215 lbs. I didn't look back too far so maybe you guys could come up with some.
Reported player weights are rarely updated after the rookie year. So the weight listing for a veteran on a website like playerprofiler or rotoworld has to be taken with a grain of salt. Gotta use your eyeballs, and make comparisons.

Weight increase or decrease in the 5lbs range is common. 10lbs is less common, but can happen. This refers to the skill-positions.

NFL regimen weight-training is on another level from college programs, and so players get heavier more often than not. Muscle weighs more than fat.
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Sat Jun 23, 2018 7:23 pm
Well... contact with WRs is illegal now and becoming illegal with all players so look for more gymnastics divas to continually pop up on the horizon. Not directed at Davis, but WR size is out the window for a metric of future WR production.
Play-strength is as important today as it was 25 years ago. Possibly more so. Used to be a lot easier for WRs to get clean release at the line.

Needless to say, play-strength usually correlates with weight/BMI.
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Re: Corey Davis concerns?

Postby DLF3000 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:19 am

Somebody get Davis and Mariota in the weight room! Their track record of injuries is starting to concern me. Add in all the coaching changes and I'm either anxious or excited depending on the day.
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