Is Evan engram being severely overvalued right now?

[lukkynumber13]

He could be a sell and I understand that logic, but he is also basically a WR that you can plug into your TE slot, there is real value to that. I see potential for him to continue to produce fantasy points equal or better to his current production, and if they bring in a young QB he could really be leaned on at the beginning.

I agree, but it seems like the position in general is getting deeper, and all young. for example....graham is out producing engram. i would bet he does next year, and maybe a few years.....yet noone would think of giving top 50 value for him. understandably with the age gap.

a few years back when graham/gronk were carrying the highest value....there were litteraly no questions or competition for top te's... the pool is much deeper now and really only getting deeper imo.

lets call a spade a spade here....engram is producing closer to the "average te" than he is gronk, graham, kelce, and ertz. thats not saying that he wont get there, but top 5/6 rookie pick?

Ok but why would we compare his stats to the top TEs? We don't expect Corey Davis or Devante Parker to have similar numbers to OBJ or Evans, do we? No, we just hope for WR3 numbers as a rookie. If a rookie WR is startable AT ALL, even as a WR3 or Flex, then that's a big success. So using that logic, yes it's very impressive that Engram has been a mid-level TE1 for most of the year.

I do agree he's a sell high tho, because it's not realistic to take his rookie stats and assume he will improve massively from here on out.

[smoger45]

I traded Kaepernick for him so i'm holding. He looks good as long as only other guys catching ball came from the streets. I don't see him being as productive when OBJ is healthy. It really depends on if the giants do good in the draft grabbing a young stud QB but it will take time to develop. I would sell if I had more invested. Would def trade him for a pick to grab a young RB, or QB.

[Ryantacular]

He's overvalued, I feel pretty confident in saying that. But just how good is he? That's a bit tougher to answer.

Exactly this. I would be selling right now, not buying, but curious to see how next year goes.

[maxhyde]

My answer to this is he absolutely is being overvalued...
If I can get anywhere near top 5TE value I will be trading him

[AZK]

So if everyone thinks he is overvalued and no one is willing to buy at his current price, at what value does he become a buy? Top 65?

Currently after him in DLF rankings you have young guys like Juju, MWilliams, Wentz, Henry, Coleman and Watson; and then older players like McCoy, Ingram, Crabtree, Tate, Jordy and Sanders. Obviously rookie picks aren't slotted in but that seems like your typical 1.04/1.05 and back slots to me. The drops are a concern but in a startup I'm not convinced he will fall much further then that given that he isn't your prototypical TE.

Would I pay that price? Likely not given that you can get TE production later but would I sell for Fuller/CJA-ish types in the 65 - 70 range.....no.

[maxhyde]

Yeah I would take all the guys you listed (Juju/MWill/Wentz/Henry/Coleman) all over Engram pretty easily. I agree though selling for Fuller or CJA would be a no go.
I mean I would happily swap Engram for Juju or MWilliams today

[Space Cowboy]

He's clearly hit the rookie wall but it's absurd to be worrying about him.

[Tsunami]

He has enough potential that it is hard to say he is overvalued, but I do see a decline coming. Long-term he could definitely eclipse this point though.

[Cameron Giles]

It is rare for a rookie TE to produce at all.

With that said - when you look at his age and what he has done, he is one of those "upside" guys.

He is tough to rank because all productive TEs are quite older.

I'd argue that Engram is an anomaly for the TE development curve, because...he doesn't really play TE. He's on the field to catch passes and he hardly ever blocks. Compare that to someone like O.J. Howard, who is on the field to block and just started seeing more volume recently in the passing game. When you don't have to worry about blocking assignments, playing "TE" isn't nearly as challenging.

Engram is slightly overvalued, but he is really talented. I would sell if people are throwing Allen Robinson around, but I'd also feel good about him going forward even if there may be regression coming. I'd probably send out a feeler to an O.J. Howard owner to see if he'll give me a pick or something with Howard because of Engram's immediate production.

[zelldawg26]

Of only I had more options at TE, I would sell him now at what I think will be his highest for a couple years. Thing is, Giants are a giant mess and when Eli needs help, he leans on players, just like he leans on Odell when he's healthy. With the WR corp completely lacking from injuries and even Shephard banged up this year, it's a no brainer that he is over valued due to snap count and targets. Sell high or wait till next year to buy low. And who knows if Eli is even still the QB next year. My guess is they definitely bring competition into the fold.

[Plank]

Think in the offseason, I'll offer Engram to the ARob owner, see what happens

[Jigga94]

Of only I had more options at TE, I would sell him now at what I think will be his highest for a couple years. Thing is, Giants are a giant mess and when Eli needs help, he leans on players, just like he leans on Odell when he's healthy. With the WR corp completely lacking from injuries and even Shephard banged up this year, it's a no brainer that he is over valued due to snap count and targets. Sell high or wait till next year to buy low. And who knows if Eli is even still the QB next year. My guess is they definitely bring competition into the fold.

Eli isnt even the QB this week

[StableOfRBs]

He could be a sell and I understand that logic, but he is also basically a WR that you can plug into your TE slot, there is real value to that. I see potential for him to continue to produce fantasy points equal or better to his current production, and if they bring in a young QB he could really be leaned on at the beginning.

I agree, but it seems like the position in general is getting deeper, and all young. for example....graham is out producing engram. i would bet he does next year, and maybe a few years.....yet noone would think of giving top 50 value for him. understandably with the age gap.

a few years back when graham/gronk were carrying the highest value....there were litteraly no questions or competition for top te's... the pool is much deeper now and really only getting deeper imo.

lets call a spade a spade here....engram is producing closer to the "average te" than he is gronk, graham, kelce, and ertz. thats not saying that he wont get there, but top 5/6 rookie pick?

Ok but why would we compare his stats to the top TEs? We don't expect Corey Davis or Devante Parker to have similar numbers to OBJ or Evans, do we? No, we just hope for WR3 numbers as a rookie. If a rookie WR is startable AT ALL, even as a WR3 or Flex, then that's a big success. So using that logic, yes it's very impressive that Engram has been a mid-level TE1 for most of the year.

I do agree he's a sell high tho, because it's not realistic to take his rookie stats and assume he will improve massively from here on out.

Considering there's a thread around here somewhere titled "Corey Davis the next Calvin/AB???" I'm pretty sure there are several people out there who do expect things like this. Minority or not, they're out there.

[lukkynumber13]

I agree, but it seems like the position in general is getting deeper, and all young. for example....graham is out producing engram. i would bet he does next year, and maybe a few years.....yet noone would think of giving top 50 value for him. understandably with the age gap.

a few years back when graham/gronk were carrying the highest value....there were litteraly no questions or competition for top te's... the pool is much deeper now and really only getting deeper imo.

lets call a spade a spade here....engram is producing closer to the "average te" than he is gronk, graham, kelce, and ertz. thats not saying that he wont get there, but top 5/6 rookie pick?

Ok but why would we compare his stats to the top TEs? We don't expect Corey Davis or Devante Parker to have similar numbers to OBJ or Evans, do we? No, we just hope for WR3 numbers as a rookie. If a rookie WR is startable AT ALL, even as a WR3 or Flex, then that's a big success. So using that logic, yes it's very impressive that Engram has been a mid-level TE1 for most of the year.

I do agree he's a sell high tho, because it's not realistic to take his rookie stats and assume he will improve massively from here on out.

Considering there's a thread around here somewhere titled "Corey Davis the next Calvin/AB???" I'm pretty sure there are several people out there who do expect things like this. Minority or not, they're out there.

In their rookie seasons tho?? That's what I'm saying.

No sane person expects a rookie WR to post a 85/1200/12 stat line in their first year

[Crwdstunna]

Engram is feeling a bit overrated. A lot of uncertainty for the Giants at QB in the future