Alex Collins

[kamihamster]

I like Collins, but I traded him away for Kerryon Johnson. Collins could probably improve a bit on his 2017 season but I don't think it would be all that much. While KJ has not shown anything, I think his ceiling is much higher than Collins. KJ has better hands and is on a team that paid a lot to get him. He could be another Detroit RB that does nothing, but I think with a change in coaching, and the draft investment made in him, I can see Kerryon being worth a whole lot more than Collins this time next year... even he disappoints, I think there will be some value insulation and you could recoup 80% whereas if Collins has a bad year, his price would likely plummet.

[Jigga94]

Baltimore RB history alone suggests there will be a different starting RB by mid-season. Dixon is talented. Collins is talented. Buck is a bit less talented but has his moments. I wouldn't want to rely on any of this RBBC for too long.

[fakespike13]

I just don’t understand why guys like Collins are doubted by si many.

As a former SEC school alum, I watched Collins a decent amount and thought he was a solid player. But the guy didn't have a good combine and fell into the 5th round...barely played as a rookie and was signed to Baltimore's practice squad....and only was promoted because Woodhead went down in week 1 or 2.

Again, I'm not here to hold that against Collins but look at that timeline and tell me that's a guy you would have had on your roster before September 16th, 2017. Personally, I picked him up on September 20th and today I could really be kicking myself because I traded him for a 2nd rounder when I probably will have been better off keeping him.

To me all a guy like Collins embodies is that late round RBs just need a chance, and there will always be those who get it. Be sure to keep up on the news and waiver wire. The hard part is valuing these players, and whether or not the performance they put up will make the team commit.

I picked him up Sept 7th.

[thebeast]

Deja vu with the argument around Rawls a year ago... Some ridiculous DLF ranker had him ranked too high and there was a 50 page thread on how great he was and that he was the clear starter in Sea who they were committed to.

[JDogil12]

Deja vu with the argument around Rawls a year ago... Some ridiculous DLF ranker had him ranked too high and there was a 50 page thread on how great he was and that he was the clear starter in Sea who they were committed to.

Not sure how the situations are similar, Collins isnt coming off an hairline fracture that cause him to miss 7 games. Collins was also just 27 yards away from 1000 despite only being the guy for 12 games. He is their goal line guy and will see the bulk of the load. Nobody is saying he is a world beater but he will return value this year considering how little value he has

[Johnny Canuck]

I'll just leave these here...

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This is also worth a read...

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... eplace-him

Overall in 2017, Collins’ 50% rushing success rate ranked fourth among 32 running backs with at least 150 carries, trailing only Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, and Dion Lewis. And Collins faced the league’s eighth-hardest run-defense schedule. Elliott and Lewis both faced easier-than-average slates. Collins’ 4.6 YPC average ranked fifth among those 32 backs.

It was tremendous efficiency relative to Collins’ situation. He wasn’t playing with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Sean McVay, or the Cowboys’ offensive line. Collins tore it up with Joe Flacco, Marty Mornhinweg, and the league’s most-injured line blocking for him. And their tight end corps – a big factor in run blocking – was sixth-most injured across the league.

Don't listen to anyone that says Collins was only good due to opportunity...unless they're willing to say the same about Zeke, Hunt, etc.

Said it before and I'll say it again, one of the most underrated RBs in the league.

[thebeast]

Well, I have enough shares that I hope I’m wrong and a lot of you guys are right.

[fakespike13]

https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/10 ... 2971849728

[ninotoreS]

Collins is the clear starter its not even close

Of course he is, right now. This is a Dynasty forum, and the thread was started during the season last year. Not trying to offend, but you've stated the obvious as of July 24th, 2018, and nothing else.

There are comments posted as of July 24th, 2018 preceding his comment questioning said obvious status quo.

I'll just leave these here...

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This is also worth a read...

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... eplace-him

Overall in 2017, Collins’ 50% rushing success rate ranked fourth among 32 running backs with at least 150 carries, trailing only Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, and Dion Lewis. And Collins faced the league’s eighth-hardest run-defense schedule. Elliott and Lewis both faced easier-than-average slates. Collins’ 4.6 YPC average ranked fifth among those 32 backs.

It was tremendous efficiency relative to Collins’ situation. He wasn’t playing with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Sean McVay, or the Cowboys’ offensive line. Collins tore it up with Joe Flacco, Marty Mornhinweg, and the league’s most-injured line blocking for him. And their tight end corps – a big factor in run blocking – was sixth-most injured across the league.

Don't listen to anyone that says Collins was only good due to opportunity...unless they're willing to say the same about Zeke, Hunt, etc.

Quoting for truth.

*If* Collins' '17 form returns for '18 -- and barring injury, I don't see why it won't -- Dixon and Allen aren't usurping him as the starter.

I've seen it brought up in another thread that Collins' '18 salary suggests Baltimore doesn't think much of him, and to correct this misconception again before it's brought up again: Collins was an exclusive rights free-agent, so Baltimore didn't have to pay him more than what they re-signed him for. Collins had zero bargaining power, and his only other option was to sit out the entire 2018 season.

The only knock i got on Collins' '17 tape insofar as fantasy concerns is that he's more of 2.5-down RB than 3-down RB. The tape shows me a rich man's Alfred Morris in his prime.

[FantasyFreak]

Collins is the clear starter its not even close

Of course he is, right now. This is a Dynasty forum, and the thread was started during the season last year. Not trying to offend, but you've stated the obvious as of July 24th, 2018, and nothing else.

There are comments posted as of July 24th, 2018 preceding his comment questioning said obvious status quo.

I'll just leave these here...

Dd3u6TDUwAAwFb5.jpgDi0WDbjVAAA08al.jpgDU5GLChX4AEpX_O.jpg large.jpg

This is also worth a read...

http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/bl ... eplace-him

Overall in 2017, Collins’ 50% rushing success rate ranked fourth among 32 running backs with at least 150 carries, trailing only Todd Gurley, Ezekiel Elliott, and Dion Lewis. And Collins faced the league’s eighth-hardest run-defense schedule. Elliott and Lewis both faced easier-than-average slates. Collins’ 4.6 YPC average ranked fifth among those 32 backs.

It was tremendous efficiency relative to Collins’ situation. He wasn’t playing with Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, Sean McVay, or the Cowboys’ offensive line. Collins tore it up with Joe Flacco, Marty Mornhinweg, and the league’s most-injured line blocking for him. And their tight end corps – a big factor in run blocking – was sixth-most injured across the league.

Don't listen to anyone that says Collins was only good due to opportunity...unless they're willing to say the same about Zeke, Hunt, etc.

Quoting for truth.

*If* Collins' '17 form returns for '18 -- and barring injury, I don't see why it won't -- Hill and Allen aren't usurping him as the starter.

I've seen it brought up in another thread that Collins' '18 salary suggests Baltimore doesn't think much of him, and to correct this misconception again before it's brought up again: Collins was an exclusive rights free-agent, so Baltimore didn't have to pay him more than what they re-signed him for. Collins had zero bargaining power, and his only other option was to sit out the entire 2018 season.

The only knock i got on Collins' '17 tape insofar as fantasy concerns is that he's more of 2.5-down RB than 3-down RB. The tape shows me a rich man's Alfred Morris in his prime.

Geez, Alf led the league in rushing, and he's a rich man's version of that??? Agreed he's not really a 3 down back. I love Collins for his price, but own him nowhere. I should probably try for him on a contender.

[fakespike13]

Baltimore RB history alone suggests there will be a different starting RB by mid-season. Dixon is talented. Collins is talented. Buck is a bit less talented but has his moments. I wouldn't want to rely on any of this RBBC for too long.

:: looks down at your RBs in sig team

i'll buy Evan Silva and Warren Sharp's opinion instead, but thank you for your contribution.

[FantasyFreak]

Baltimore RB history alone suggests there will be a different starting RB by mid-season. Dixon is talented. Collins is talented. Buck is a bit less talented but has his moments. I wouldn't want to rely on any of this RBBC for too long.

:: looks down at your RBs in sig team

i'll buy Evan Silva and Warren Sharp's opinion instead, but thank you for your contribution.

Yes, but he said he wouldn't want to rely on any of them, including Dixon.

[ArrylT]

I just don’t understand why guys like Collins are doubted by si many.

As a former SEC school alum, I watched Collins a decent amount and thought he was a solid player. But the guy didn't have a good combine and fell into the 5th round...barely played as a rookie and was signed to Baltimore's practice squad....and only was promoted because Woodhead went down in week 1 or 2.

Again, I'm not here to hold that against Collins but look at that timeline and tell me that's a guy you would have had on your roster before September 16th, 2017. Personally, I picked him up on September 20th and today I could really be kicking myself because I traded him for a 2nd rounder when I probably will have been better off keeping him.

To me all a guy like Collins embodies is that late round RBs just need a chance, and there will always be those who get it. Be sure to keep up on the news and waiver wire. The hard part is valuing these players, and whether or not the performance they put up will make the team commit.

After looking over my MFL leagues it looks like he was picked up Sept/Oct 2017 in about 60% of my leagues last year. Usually in the ones that were 25man or less leagues, whereas 14-16 team leagues or ones with 26+ man rosters owners found a way to stash him. He sort of reminds me of a poor-mans CJA - and just like CJA he'll need to stay healthy to keep his role (or he'll have to re-win it each year).

[Pet_Smith]

Sounds about right. I held him on my Taxi squad all through 2016 then had to cut him at the start of last year once Seattle cut him... only to see him picked up off waivers and turn in an RB1 performance for the second half of the season. Wish I had roster space to stash him longer

[Servo]

"Dixon walked off the field early in practice with a trainer and did not return"

lol geez