Is this considered Tanking?

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby joeday » Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:45 am

sugbear65 wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:36 am
jcc6fd wrote: Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:18 am I don’t understand this. First why would injuries to your best players further penalize you? You shouldn’t have to trade simply because of your bad fortune. Rather you should be compensated with higher draft picks for having a lost season.

Secondly why would “tanking” as you described even be illegal? You should only be required to set the best lineup of available players that you own. It would be a strategic move to purge older talent in a year you can’t win to gain better draft position as you rebuild. It’s a common and accepted real life and dynasty fantasy strategy.

So my question is why is this even being asked? Pressure from league mates? I don’t think they have a leg to stand on if that’s the case.
Because of competitive imbalance. I operate under the belief U should be starting an entire active roster every week in fantasy, not just the weeks it's convenient for you. That's like fantasy 101 for me personally. If your league doesn't have a rule in place regarding this, then u can stop reading here and by all means do what you want. But if you play in a league that does have this rule(all of mine do), than no it is not ok to not start a Position, especially when done premeditated.
I understand that can make for difficult decisions or cuts. But everyone is playing under that umbrella rule, so it's not like it's unfair. Havin a lot of bye weeks or injuries is unfortunate, but part of the game.
The argument that you have to do what's best for your team is null and void in this case. I could do a lot of things that is breaking the rules just because they would best for my team. I could collude on a trade because it's best for my team, is that ok? I could hold more players over the maximum roster allotment because its best for my team. I could pay another team to not start their best lineup so I can get a win. Ultimately if there is a rule in place, breaking it because "it's best for my team" isn't a valid argument.
So the league is in better balance if someone gouges you for Drew Stanton or Tom Savage? The only way he should be forced to trade for a QB is if the owners with tradeable QBs are forced to trade him one for actual market value.
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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby juke05 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:54 pm

not tanking at all. If you play in a 12 or 14 person superflex for more than a few years, I'd actually be surprised if you or at least someone in your league doesn't run across a situation where you legitimately cannot field a starting QB due to injuries or bye weeks and are forced to start a backup in an active roster spot. Has happened to me multiple times

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:21 pm

I just played against a team in a superflex league that only had Matt Moore as his starting QB. it felt good.

But his QBs were also Rodgers & Watson. He ran into bad luck.

This is the nature of Superflex. Some teams don't cover their bleep on their QB stable & they pay the price. It happens. He shouldn't be forced to trade for anyone.

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby motherlode » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:18 pm

I actually had to play last week with no DST in one league because literally every single defense was rostered. I went to grab one off the WW Saturday morning and there weren't any. Never seen that in 10 years playing FF. But no way was I making some BS trade just to acquire some craptastic 1 week fill in.

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby motherlode » Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:36 pm

I actually had to play last week with no DST in one league because literally every single defense was rostered. I went to grab one off the WW Saturday morning and there weren't any. Never seen that in 10 years playing FF. But no way was I making some BS trade just to acquire some craptastic 1 week fill in.

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby M-Dub » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:19 am

If it’s a superflex league and you don’t have any starting QBs, you shouldn’t be forced to trade for one, but you also shouldn’t be starting two QBs. That’s the only part that I’d find sketchy. If you’re starting a second backup QB in your SF spot instead of a WR/RB/TE who has a chance to actually score a few points for you, that would irk me as a fellow owner.
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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby hockeyBjj » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:31 am

motherlode wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:36 pm I actually had to play last week with no DST in one league because literally every single defense was rostered. I went to grab one off the WW Saturday morning and there weren't any. Never seen that in 10 years playing FF. But no way was I making some BS trade just to acquire some craptastic 1 week fill in.
My 10 team league, every single defense is owned and its been that way all year and last year. It's annoying, because it forces me to roster 3 of each in case of byes overlapping

Our defensive scoring is rather larger than standard ESPN scoring for Ds, so there's a few teams with 5 or 6 defenses so that they can stream from their bench based on matchup. 30 man rosters plus taxi squad of anyone you've drafted in the last two years
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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby Bot101 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:01 pm

Would someone mind explaining to me how to calculate potential points and how to do it properly? My league likes the idea but unsure how to implement it properly for the 4 teams that dont make the playoffs (10 team league, top 6 make playoffs).

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby Tsunami » Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:44 am

Bot101 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:01 pm Would someone mind explaining to me how to calculate potential points and how to do it properly? My league likes the idea but unsure how to implement it properly for the 4 teams that dont make the playoffs (10 team league, top 6 make playoffs).
What site do you use to host your league?

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Re: Is this considered Tanking?

Postby Bot101 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:12 pm

Tsunami wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:44 am
Bot101 wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:01 pm Would someone mind explaining to me how to calculate potential points and how to do it properly? My league likes the idea but unsure how to implement it properly for the 4 teams that dont make the playoffs (10 team league, top 6 make playoffs).
What site do you use to host your league?
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