Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:43 am

Jeff Darlington said Miami traded Ajayi because they're not confident he can last much longer on his degenerative knees. He's already getting multiple rest days during the practice week.

Probably the last chance to sell high on Ajayi.

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby Phaded » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:44 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:21 am For those who are saying a 4th is so cheap, it's really not. Players in the NFL don't get traded much and when they do, it's usually for conditional 6th or 7th rounders
While I agree to an extent - let us not pretend that a 4th is exactly a heavily investment or vote of confidence in how bad they wanted him.
It is basically the same investment they made in Pumphrey.

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:53 am

Phaded wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:44 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:21 am For those who are saying a 4th is so cheap, it's really not. Players in the NFL don't get traded much and when they do, it's usually for conditional 6th or 7th rounders
While I agree to an extent - let us not pretend that a 4th is exactly a heavily investment or vote of confidence in how bad they wanted him.
It is basically the same investment they made in Pumphrey.
Totally agree. I wasn't trying to make the case that the Eagles gave up a ton of capital, but rather that they paid the going rate for a player who's good not great (and isn't a QB, OT, or edge player)
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby Madadamus » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:09 pm

If you can still get a 1st, I think it's wise to check out.
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby mzkp54 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:06 pm

I'd sell if i owned him anywhere
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:19 pm

Maybe he goes to the Eagles and is a member of a 3-headed RB committee. Totally possible, and it would suck.

Maybe, just maybe, he has a "Marshawn Lynch to Seattle" 2nd chapter to his career.

Ajayi is not a pedestrian talent. I feel pretty good about him holding or increasing his current value (assuming his current value is a late First) by the end of the year.
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby The Red Rooster » Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:26 pm

So is everyone saying deal Ajayi because the Fins lost faith also saying deal Benji?

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:49 pm

The Red Rooster wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:26 pm So is everyone saying deal Ajayi because the Fins lost faith also saying deal Benji?
I think Benjamin is an average WR, but the writing seems to be on the wall with Ajayi:

-Degenerative knees
-Needs multiple rest days during the practice week for his knee at age 24.
-Hasn't been any good this season
-Receiving production didn't translate
-Locker room problem in Miami

Also:

Ajayi's three 200 yard games: 85 carries, 624 yards, 4 TD's, 7.3 YPC
All his other games since 2016: 313 carries, 1,113 yards, 2 TD's, 3.5 YPC

He may have some good games in a better Philadelphia offense, but this is the last window to sell for something significant while people thinking the Dolphins are idiots for selling low.

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby The Red Rooster » Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:26 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:49 pm
The Red Rooster wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:26 pm So is everyone saying deal Ajayi because the Fins lost faith also saying deal Benji?
I think Benjamin is an average WR, but the writing seems to be on the wall with Ajayi:

-Degenerative knees
-Needs multiple rest days during the practice week for his knee at age 24.
-Hasn't been any good this season
-Receiving production didn't translate
-Locker room problem in Miami

Also:

Ajayi's three 200 yard games: 85 carries, 624 yards, 4 TD's, 7.3 YPC
All his other games since 2016: 313 carries, 1,113 yards, 2 TD's, 3.5 YPC

He may have some good games in a better Philadelphia offense, but this is the last window to sell for something significant while people thinking the Dolphins are idiots for selling low.
You make plenty of valid points...other than the knees and locker room issue, this sounds a lot like the arguments against Gurley last year at this time. I know its an unfair statement for me to make by comparing the two but this is a big reason its hard for to give up on him right now.

Also, I mostly just being a pain by making that Benji comment...I soured on him probably at this time last year as he always ended the season with overall WR2 numbers...but was impossible to start due to his peaks and valleys from week to week.

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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby joeylitz » Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:53 pm

Balzac wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:43 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:23 am
Phaded wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:58 am I don't know how you cannot consider this at least a bit of a red flag.
Remember when everyone thought it was great for DGB to go to the eagles.
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Too funny. Ajayi was 4th in the NFL in rushing yards last year. DGB was simply unfulfilled potential
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby joeylitz » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:03 pm

Cameron Giles wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:43 am Jeff Darlington said Miami traded Ajayi because they're not confident he can last much longer on his degenerative knees. He's already getting multiple rest days during the practice week.
This could be true. Or it could be Miami/Gase wanted him gone so badly, they leak this to justify the release and deflect criticism.

Time will tell about his knees, but I think it’s a good short-term deal for Philly with the potential to be a great long-term deal.

Too bad they couldn’t land a better LT, though. :|
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:46 pm

Averaging 14 YPC!!!

Leveon Bell who?

Ajayi snagging that MVP trophy from Wentz
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby skip » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:07 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:46 pm Averaging 14 YPC!!!

Leveon Bell who?

Ajayi snagging that MVP trophy from Wentz
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Postby saw061600 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 1:17 pm

Clement and Ajayi leading. Ajayi on bench because...well he hasn't done jack and new team. Clement was a flyer I was stashing...flying away with all my potential points lol.
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Re: Jay Ajayi to the Eagles!

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:40 pm

Corey Clement took offense to the Ajayi trade!
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