Andrew luck

[nathanq42]

Surprised with all of these worried about threads there isn't on about luck.

Allegedly not close to returning, and is seeing a specialist about his shoulder pain.

Colts suck, they likely won't get better anytime soon, Hilton might be on his way out, luck might be chronically injured.

Tough deal for the guy.

[Tsunami]

Last I heard the shoulder is structurally fully healed, his throwing motion is the same, and he's just rehabbing the muscles. Pain is to be expected during rehab. People who say he's out for the season or that he'll never play again on twitter don't know what they are talking about. Although I have to admit that I didn't think he would be out this long, so maybe something has gone wrong that they are hiding. But I just traded my 1st for him in a keeper league that right now could be 1.1.

[jman3134]

As I mentioned in the TY thread, the notion that they would trade their number one receiver despite no reports of Hilton's dissatisfaction indicates to me that there might be something more to this. I am very, very worried as a Luck owner.

[dm1129]

As I mentioned in the TY thread, the notion that they would trade their number one receiver despite no reports of Hilton's dissatisfaction indicates to me that there might be something more to this. I am very, very worried as a Luck owner.

I agree. If in fact the rumor that Hilton is available for trade is true, it tells me there is significant information that the public is not aware of.

[NanceUSMC]

I tried to trade for him earlier in the year, hoping to catch a panicking owner in a buy low situation... kinda glad that fell through now with all the new information on his continued pain, and some opinions out there that he may never play again...

If I were a Luck owner right now, and were all in on him as the cornerstone of my QB situation, I'd be freaking out right now...

So, provided the situation doesn't change significantly between now and April (Luck doesn't play this year, and continues to show slow or no signs of improvement), do you think they're in the market for a top-5 QB??

[Vcize]

As a Luck owner I have not been concerned about his long term prospects until the Hilton rumors came out. I guess those are still rumors, but if true it would be very worrisome. There is no reason for them to trade Hilton if Luck will be playing at near full capacity next year.

[Tvols]

What would trading Hilton have to do with Luck not being able to return?

[JoshGordonsDealer]

What would trading Hilton have to do with Luck not being able to return?

I think the general feeling is that if the Colts are confident that Luck will be at 100% in 2018, it'd be dumb to trade away his best WR.

If they're trading away all of their assets, are they accepting a full rebuild?

[NanceUSMC]

Is Luck still (right now) worth multiple 1st rounders and players, like he was prior to this injury?

[seahawks506]

Think you guys are giving too much credit to the Colts front office's strategy here and reading a bit too much into it. Hilton is one of the only trade chips they really have and Ballard took over after Hilton was drafted and given a fat extension I believe. I think they lied to their fanbase about Luck playing this season and it's been exposed because they're idiots, but I'm not too concerned about him long-term. I don't think he should be seen as a top-tier elite dynasty QB until we know more though. Also, I think it's fairly unlikely Hilton actually gets traded.

[Reljac]

This thread seems to forget the others rumors that came out not too long ago. That Luck wants out of Indy. If you are to take anything from the Hilton news, it's that the colts may be considering a rebuild. They seem to be many pieces away from competing. They still need O-line, LBers, secondary, RBs, and WRs. I wouldn't be surprised if Hilton is traded for draft picks, Moncrief is not resigned, and if they colts rest Luck for the remainder of the season because they are essentially done for the year, and then trade him as well. They could potentially walk away with a fair stash of early picks with that.

[jman3134]

What would trading Hilton have to do with Luck not being able to return?

First, the Colts never designated him for PUP, so the timetable was supposed to be well before week 11. The latest timetable suggests he will return week 13 at minimum, with some reports indicating he is out for the year.

Now, this, in and of itself is not cause for that much concern. The Colts stink and he could be taking his time recovering and making sure he is fully healed instead of playing through injury, as he had done in the past.

But, then ask yourself, why would the Colts swap out TY for picks given how deadly the Luck-Hilton combination has been over the years? Hilton was the league's top receiver a year ago with Luck at the helm. Why completely retool the offense? If you have been following, look at Hilton's numbers with Brissett under center. He has been subpar to say the least - chemistry isn't there. Now if Brissett is more of a long term fix, then it would make sense to deal Hilton and totally revamp the offense.

[nathanq42]

What if luck goes to the broncos and is the figurehead of the most prolific offense ever?

[dipANDglide]

I'd bet he'll be fine for '18 going forward and a lot of the rumors are "fake news" and speculation. It's definitely concerning to some degree, tho.

[CK_]

Are people less concerned now that TY didn't get traded and does anyone have any fear at all that he may not play again? Shoulder injury is lingering longer than expected which for me myself is nerve racking.

I just bought my first share of Luck yesterday in a Dynasty and I either bought insanely low or extremely high if the worst case is him never playing again.