Why tanking kills leauge?

[BhamRudy]

I'm in 14 team leauge that's only been around 2 years. People are tanking and no one seems to understand why it will kill the leauge. I'm not able to articulate the words to explain why it's bad. Can someone help me with this? Why do rules need to be in place?

[Bot101]

Define tanking. Somone sitting studs? Or someone whos team is under performing and hes selling off short term assets to rebuild and doesnt want the points?

[tom14cat14]

Define tanking. Somone sitting studs? Or someone whos team is under performing and hes selling off short term assets to rebuild and doesnt want the points?

This x100.

If someone is sitting players who clearly should be playing then it is crap. If someone is doing this and doesn’t understand it is wrong then nothing you will say will change their mind.

Now if you say selling off your aging assets kills the league I think most would disagree with that statement.

[BhamRudy]

They are sitting studs. One team has Newton Jeffery and Parker on the bench with Trubisky and juju and Smallwood in his line up. 2 teams are doing this.

[Dynasty DeLorean]

They are sitting studs. One team has Newton Jeffery and Parker on the bench with Trubisky and juju and Smallwood in his line up. 2 teams are doing this.

You might need to provide a little more detail. Trubisky over Cam is suspect (and even then Cam has been playing like crap for the most part) but you could make a case for the other players.

[StableOfRBs]

They are sitting studs. One team has Newton Jeffery and Parker on the bench with Trubisky and juju and Smallwood in his line up. 2 teams are doing this.

To be fair I'm hesitant to call Newton, Jeffrey and Parker studs especially given they have played this year, Netwon has had 2 great games, 1 good game, 2 not so good games and 2 trash games and has an average matchup this week. I don't think Trubisky will outscore him this week against NO but if he did it wouldn't completely surprise me. Parker has had 1 good game this year and is currently not practicing with an ankle injury after sitting out the last two weeks so I'm doubtful of him even playing right now. As for Jeffrey I don't get him starting over Smallwood but he's been outscored by Juju over the last 3 weeks and while SF looks like a great matchup for him they've been roasted by slot receivers (where Agholor lines up) and have been decent in outside coverage. Could also be looking for some upside with Smallwood considering SF is dead last against RBs this year.

Granted I could be way off and he's actually just tanking but intentional tanking is kind of hard to prove, especially based on those 3 examples you gave, I'd have to see his whole roster to make a clear decision.

[sloth8u]

"Tanking" is no more detrimental than "rebuilding"...id even argue that "rebuilding is worse.

[M-Dub]

"Tanking" is no more detrimental than "rebuilding"...id even argue that "rebuilding is worse.

Huh?

[lukkynumber13]

A healthy league is an ecosystem. That means that the best teams are actively seeking to upgrade their depth and starting rosters, while the worst teams are actively selling vets for draft capital and buy-low youth assets. A healthy league has multiple owners with multi-year plans, and sometimes those plans include "tanking".

[sloth8u]

"Tanking" is no more detrimental than "rebuilding"...id even argue that "rebuilding is worse.

Huh?

Making trades with the intent of losing games. Some call that rebuilding when in fact it is tanking aswell.

[Orenthal Shames]

They are sitting studs. One team has Newton Jeffery and Parker on the bench with Trubisky and juju and Smallwood in his line up. 2 teams are doing this.

To be fair I'm hesitant to call Newton, Jeffrey and Parker studs especially given they have played this year, Netwon has had 2 great games, 1 good game, 2 not so good games and 2 trash games and has an average matchup this week. I don't think Trubisky will outscore him this week against NO but if he did it wouldn't completely surprise me. Parker has had 1 good game this year and is currently not practicing with an ankle injury after sitting out the last two weeks so I'm doubtful of him even playing right now. As for Jeffrey I don't get him starting over Smallwood but he's been outscored by Juju over the last 3 weeks and while SF looks like a great matchup for him they've been roasted by slot receivers (where Agholor lines up) and have been decent in outside coverage. Could also be looking for some upside with Smallwood considering SF is dead last against RBs this year.

Granted I could be way off and he's actually just tanking but intentional tanking is kind of hard to prove, especially based on those 3 examples you gave, I'd have to see his whole roster to make a clear decision.

^this. Nearly any start/sit can be rationalized to an extent, especially with all the injuries and under performing studs. Right or wrong, someone could make arguments for guys like Kenny Stills over Julio or Jordy based on matchup and situation, so it's almost impossible to prove.

[Pac_Eddy]

Making trades with the intent of losing games. Some call that rebuilding when in fact it is tanking aswell.

Got to disagree here.

Rebuilding & tanking are different. Tanking only refers to intentionally setting a weak lineup with the intent to lose.

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I will always vehemently argue against the idea that tanking is a viable strategy or somehow healthy or good for a league. It could easily be argued that tanking is the exact same thing as collusion because you're intentionally allowing another team to beat you. It is foolish to think that tanking only impacts a single team. It has a league-wide negative impact.

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As an aside, how many leagues are set up a system that regardless of whether or not tanking is taking place it will not impact the draft order of the bottom teams. The bulk of my leagues of always used win-loss record or some combination using win loss record. I believe that the most viable design and the one that is most likely to eliminate the problem of tanking is using potential points. This way regardless of whether or not the other owner starts their best players or their worst players the system will account for them only starting their best available options. Unfortunately it does nothing to eliminate the problem I cited above of gifting wins to the opponent. But it does eliminate their selfish goals.

[BigBawseRoss]

if you pay you can run your team how you want. including losing on purpose in a lost year to try to get the top pick the following year. any other team is allowed to do the same. you wanna stink so you can get a better team next seaso? go ahead that sounds smart and shouldnt bother teams in the hunt to win it all