Dez worth these days?
Re: Dez worth these days?
I doubt many would give 2 first for him he is as bad as cooper now a days .. I had him in a rebuild on block for two weeks one offer .. ended up moving dez with some back and forth .. he simply no longer is a wr one
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Re: Dez worth these days?
I know this may not directly pertain to the current situation, but I traded him last year, right before coming back from injury, for the 1.4 and Lamar Miller. The current owner is trying to get multiple firsts and struggling to do so. It’s important to know that up until the last week of the season, it was projected to be the 1.2 pick.
Re: Dez worth these days?
Anyone valuing Dez anything higher than a single first round pick (middle) must not watch the Cowboys play. I'm an hour from Dallas and get to see pretty much every game. Dez is a shell of what he was earlier in his career. He hasn't been close to the elite receiver he was back in 2014.
It's funny that DT running back a year ago could barely get you that middle first yet a less productive Dez - not just recently, but his entire career - manages to carry elite value still to some.
It's funny that DT running back a year ago could barely get you that middle first yet a less productive Dez - not just recently, but his entire career - manages to carry elite value still to some.
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Re: Dez worth these days?
I agree with you. I feel lucky to get what did for him honestly.skip wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:39 am Anyone valuing Dez anything higher than a single first round pick (middle) must not watch the Cowboys play. I'm an hour from Dallas and get to see pretty much every game. Dez is a shell of what he was earlier in his career. He hasn't been close to the elite receiver he was back in 2014.
It's funny that DT running back a year ago could barely get you that middle first yet a less productive Dez - not just recently, but his entire career - manages to carry elite value still to some.
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Re: Dez worth these days?
My team isn’t nearly stacked but strangely enough I have been starting Funchess, Agholor, and Landry. Part of me says that Dez should be starting over all of those guys, but another part of me just can’t do it. Wtf is wrong with me?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:56 pm How stacked is your roster that he's not starting for you in a 16-team league??? He's still a low end WR1, and 29 years old. Worth 3 Firsts in any format
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Re: Dez worth these days?
I'm no doctor so I can't answer that question haha, but you should never start Agholor or Funchess over Dez...slaughterrt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:31 amMy team isn’t nearly stacked but strangely enough I have been starting Funchess, Agholor, and Landry. Part of me says that Dez should be starting over all of those guys, but another part of me just can’t do it. Wtf is wrong with me?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:56 pm How stacked is your roster that he's not starting for you in a 16-team league??? He's still a low end WR1, and 29 years old. Worth 3 Firsts in any format
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Re: Dez worth these days?
Lmao, exactly.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:15 pmI'm no doctor so I can't answer that question haha, but you should never start Agholor or Funchess over Dez...slaughterrt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:31 amMy team isn’t nearly stacked but strangely enough I have been starting Funchess, Agholor, and Landry. Part of me says that Dez should be starting over all of those guys, but another part of me just can’t do it. Wtf is wrong with me?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 21, 2017 4:56 pm How stacked is your roster that he's not starting for you in a 16-team league??? He's still a low end WR1, and 29 years old. Worth 3 Firsts in any format
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Re: Dez worth these days?
Meanwhile, Dez has 7-63 1TD(sick catch) but anyway, DT has 2-9, Watkins had 3-42 today, I mean, Dez may not be elite(top 5) but like I said, it’s more due to the construction of the Cowboys and bad game scripts, as much as anything.
Re: Dez worth these days?
But none of that is changing in the short term and Dez isn't getting any younger. For fantasy purposes he's a mid/low range WR2 that you can get low WR1 prices for because of his name.Cowboysfan33 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:40 pm Meanwhile, Dez has 7-63 1TD(sick catch) but anyway, DT has 2-9, Watkins had 3-42 today, I mean, Dez may not be elite(top 5) but like I said, it’s more due to the construction of the Cowboys and bad game scripts, as much as anything.
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Re: Dez worth these days?
I would so gladly gobble up all the Dez Bryant stock if I could... If anyone is seriously selling for just a single First plus an add-on piece, my goodness BUY him
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Re: Dez worth these days?
I don't think people said that's what they're selling for that as much as they were saying that's what most are willing to pay for him. He's at that stage where he's worth more on your non-rebuilding roster than what you'll get for him in a trade. There's a reason why we aren't seeing/hearing about that many Dez trades anymore. Again though, are you really paying 3 1sts for a 29yo high WR2?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:21 pm I would so gladly gobble up all the Dez Bryant stock if I could... If anyone is seriously selling for just a single First plus an add-on piece, my goodness BUY him
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Re: Dez worth these days?
Very good points... I suppose I would not pay that, but I would easily pay a pair of Firsts for him for team 1 (if I had a pair of Firsts)BuckeyeNation wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:54 pmI don't think people said that's what they're selling for that as much as they were saying that's what most are willing to pay for him. He's at that stage where he's worth more on your non-rebuilding roster than what you'll get for him in a trade. There's a reason why we aren't seeing/hearing about that many Dez trades anymore. Again though, are you really paying 3 1sts for a 29yo high WR2?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:21 pm I would so gladly gobble up all the Dez Bryant stock if I could... If anyone is seriously selling for just a single First plus an add-on piece, my goodness BUY him
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Re: Dez worth these days?
And that's reasonable as long as they're not high 1sts. I guess when we throw around prices in terms of random 1sts it can be rather vague. 2 late-ish 1sts is fine, as you're getting into 50/50 territory of those picks becoming anything. 2 top 5 picks is another story completely.lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:32 pmVery good points... I suppose I would not pay that, but I would easily pay a pair of Firsts for him for team 1 (if I had a pair of Firsts)BuckeyeNation wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:54 pmI don't think people said that's what they're selling for that as much as they were saying that's what most are willing to pay for him. He's at that stage where he's worth more on your non-rebuilding roster than what you'll get for him in a trade. There's a reason why we aren't seeing/hearing about that many Dez trades anymore. Again though, are you really paying 3 1sts for a 29yo high WR2?lukkynumber13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:21 pm I would so gladly gobble up all the Dez Bryant stock if I could... If anyone is seriously selling for just a single First plus an add-on piece, my goodness BUY him
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Re: Dez worth these days?
Getting a deal done in a few of my leagues is like pulling teeth. Very conservative approaches and if the idea doesnt originate with trading partners, they are hesiant to consider offers. I'm in 6 dyno leagues and owned Dez in 3 of them. I'm always looking to keep balance on my teams while I contend. On one roster I had Julio, AJG, Jordy, Dez as my core of wr. In an attempt to get younger and or address injuries to my rb corp I made several offers out to league mates. I offered Dez for Ty Montgomery and was rejected without reason or counter. Offered Dez, Rashard Mathews, and a 2018 4th for L.McCoy and was rejected without counter. Offered Dez for Melvin Gordon, declined.
Fair to say that the market is down on Dez. I understand it... but... at the same time I don't. Its the what have you done for me lately mentality that kills me. I finally made an offer of my Dez and A.Theilen for Brandon Cooks. And it was instantly accepted. So, it took the shiny new toy in A.Theilen to catch the eye and attention & sway my trade partner. Anyway, I see it as an overpay for Cooks. I did it to get and stay younger and to now have a wr corp of AJG, Julio, Cooks, and Jordy may help...
Sucks to have to overpay for nearly every trade I take part in. I'm actually now not doing much trading anymore because of the ultra conservative management style of many of my leaguemates. If I keep trading - I'm losing too much value. Time to stop... I love trading but it seems I can't afford it in the current market status of my leagues. It is what it is.
Fair to say that the market is down on Dez. I understand it... but... at the same time I don't. Its the what have you done for me lately mentality that kills me. I finally made an offer of my Dez and A.Theilen for Brandon Cooks. And it was instantly accepted. So, it took the shiny new toy in A.Theilen to catch the eye and attention & sway my trade partner. Anyway, I see it as an overpay for Cooks. I did it to get and stay younger and to now have a wr corp of AJG, Julio, Cooks, and Jordy may help...
Sucks to have to overpay for nearly every trade I take part in. I'm actually now not doing much trading anymore because of the ultra conservative management style of many of my leaguemates. If I keep trading - I'm losing too much value. Time to stop... I love trading but it seems I can't afford it in the current market status of my leagues. It is what it is.
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Re: Dez worth these days?
JFever wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:17 pm Sucks to have to overpay for nearly every trade I take part in. I'm actually now not doing much trading anymore because of the ultra conservative management style of many of my leaguemates. If I keep trading - I'm losing too much value. Time to stop... I love trading but it seems I can't afford it in the current market status of my leagues. It is what it is.
I feel ya buddy, That's how it is in my league too. 75% of the league wont trade unless they are the clear cut winner, then at that point, its like why do I trade to begin with.
1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR 1TE, Super Flex, 2 Flex Spots. 10 Team Dynasty PPR
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
2016 Champs 2019 Runner up 2020 Champs
QB- Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love
RB- Alvin Kamara, AJ Dillion
WR- Christian Kirk, Michael Pittman, Aiyuk, Alec Pierce, DJ Chare, Terrace Marshall, Metchie,
TE- George Kittle, Darren Waller, Greg Dortch.
Team 2 10 Team 1 QB 2 RB 3 WR 1 TE 2 Flex 2 SF
2020 3rd place Year 1
(This is a rebuild team selling vets)
QB Joe Burrow, Kenny Pickett, Geno,
RB AJ Dillon, Josh Jacobs, Tony Pollard,
WR Tee Higgins, Sutton, HollywoodTerry McLaurin, DJM, Ju-Ju, Hodgins,
TE Hock, Andrews, Kyle Pitts, Otton, Ertz
Picks
2023 4 1st 5 2nd
2024 3rd
“Not good enough to count on as a starter, but too good to drop, so they clog my bench.” dlf_mikeh
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