Kaepernick vs NFL - Collusion

[ericanadian]

Kaep has already come out and said he would stand for the anthem. Sure, the protest he started is ongoing, but I doubt the dogfighting rings Vick participated in just folded up because Vick stopped participating.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737 ... -nfl-again

A quick google search will show that he said similar back in March in case you think this is a recent development. I stand by my original comparison.

[dm1129]

Kaep has already come out and said he would stand for the anthem. Sure, the protest he started is ongoing, but I doubt the dogfighting rings Vick participated in just folded up because Vick stopped participating.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737 ... -nfl-again

A quick google search will show that he said similar back in March in case you think this is a recent development. I stand by my original comparison.

Haha, ok. The controversy is over, my bad.

[clarion contrarion]

Kaep has already come out and said he would stand for the anthem. Sure, the protest he started is ongoing, but I doubt the dogfighting rings Vick participated in just folded up because Vick stopped participating.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737 ... -nfl-again

A quick google search will show that he said similar back in March in case you think this is a recent development. I stand by my original comparison.

ray rice said he wouldn't punch his wife in the face anymore .... didn't help him. The damage is done now as he could cure cancer and to some he would still be persona non grata .
Once the horse is out of the barn you can close the door but that doesn't get the horse back in the barn!

[ericanadian]

Kaep has already come out and said he would stand for the anthem. Sure, the protest he started is ongoing, but I doubt the dogfighting rings Vick participated in just folded up because Vick stopped participating.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737 ... -nfl-again

A quick google search will show that he said similar back in March in case you think this is a recent development. I stand by my original comparison.

ray rice said he wouldn't punch his wife in the face anymore .... didn't help him. The damage is done now as he could cure cancer and to some he would still be persona non grata .
Once the horse is out of the barn you can close the door but that doesn't get the horse back in the barn!

So now taking a knee at the anthem is the same as knocking out a woman in an elevator?

[onetwothree]

Kaep was protesting well before he was benched. It only drew attention when he was was benched and people twisted what he was doing to fit whatever convenient narrative they needed.

He was benched for Gabbert not because of the protest but because his contract was only guaranteed for injury. If he got hurt, the rest of his remaining $20 mil per year for the last 2 or whatever years would be guaranteed hence why they negotiated an agreement to waive that part of the contract to allow him unrestricted FA and the Niners let him play.

Teams don't get as much practice time with this CBA. It's why you see slow starts to the season. Signing Kaep would require a team capable of dedicating time and reps to get him ready. More likely you'll sign a guy who is familiar with your system or can run what you need on a moment's notice. It's why old dudes like Weeden and Cassell will always have a role carrying the clipboard. Teams just don't have the time to customize an offense around Kaep that would only go into effect if the starter gets hurt.

Simplifying things but sometimes that's as good an answer as any huge conspiracy.

[Kaz]

Kaep has already come out and said he would stand for the anthem. Sure, the protest he started is ongoing, but I doubt the dogfighting rings Vick participated in just folded up because Vick stopped participating.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2737 ... -nfl-again

A quick google search will show that he said similar back in March in case you think this is a recent development. I stand by my original comparison.

ray rice said he wouldn't punch his wife in the face anymore .... didn't help him. The damage is done now as he could cure cancer and to some he would still be persona non grata .
Once the horse is out of the barn you can close the door but that doesn't get the horse back in the barn!

Apparently he needs to be taking lessons from Greg Hardy, Adam Jones, and Dez Bryant about how to get his horse back in the barn.

[Reljac]

Kaep was protesting well before he was benched. It only drew attention when he was was benched and people twisted what he was doing to fit whatever convenient narrative they needed.

Kaep's first protest was unnoticed and occured during the first two preseason games in 2016 in August. After it went unnoticed he went to the media to get attention. It immediately got attention once he made a public statement about it.

Kaep was first benched in November of 2015, well before any protest and in favor of Blaine Gabbert he did not start another game headed into the 2016 preseason. Gabbert started the first game of 2016 and was responsible for 1 of only 2 SF wins

Read Up!

So much misinformation being fired around

[dynastyninja]

Kaep was protesting well before he was benched. It only drew attention when he was was benched and people twisted what he was doing to fit whatever convenient narrative they needed.

Kaep's first protest was unnoticed and occured during the first two preseason games in 2016 in August. After it went unnoticed he went to the media to get attention. It immediately got attention once he made a public statement about it.

Kaep was first benched in November of 2015, well before any protest and in favor of Blaine Gabbert he did not start another game headed into the 2016 preseason. Gabbert started the first game of 2016 and was responsible for 1 of only 2 SF wins

Read Up!

So much misinformation being fired around

It definitely didn't go unnoticed. He sat on the bench during the first preseason game and it was being talked about the next day. It just didn't blow up for another week or so.

[Reljac]

It definitely didn't go unnoticed. He sat on the bench during the first preseason game and it was being talked about the next day. It just didn't blow up for another week or so.

Gotcha, the unnoticed was directly quoting the SBnation article I linked.

[Jfever]

Kaep was protesting well before he was benched. It only drew attention when he was was benched and people twisted what he was doing to fit whatever convenient narrative they needed.

He was benched for Gabbert not because of the protest but because his contract was only guaranteed for injury. If he got hurt, the rest of his remaining $20 mil per year for the last 2 or whatever years would be guaranteed hence why they negotiated an agreement to waive that part of the contract to allow him unrestricted FA and the Niners let him play.

Teams don't get as much practice time with this CBA. It's why you see slow starts to the season. Signing Kaep would require a team capable of dedicating time and reps to get him ready. More likely you'll sign a guy who is familiar with your system or can run what you need on a moment's notice. It's why old dudes like Weeden and Cassell will always have a role carrying the clipboard. Teams just don't have the time to customize an offense around Kaep that would only go into effect if the starter gets hurt.

Simplifying things but sometimes that's as good an answer as any huge conspiracy.

Good points and well said. I appreciate your take and your delivery.

I don't look at these threads and discussions as having to have a thread "winner". Rather, simply a discussion where we can share thoughts on a topic and learn from each other. Not really a competition, debate, or argument that must have a winner and loser. It occurred to me while reading through the last couple pages that some that have contributed to the thread view this as such.

[Fantasyfanatic11]

Now that Eric Reid got signed by Carolina. You think the likelihood of a team signing Kaepernick increases significantly?!

[dynastyninja]

Doubt it. Him signing would be a huge mess for a team, and he's probably not going to contribute in a meaningful enough way on the field.

[Jfever]

Sad part is Kaepernick as it stands RIGHT NOW today, is more talented than nearly every single NFL back up and prob close to 25% of the current starters.

What an absolute joke. People are dumb, the media is both good and bad - because people are dumb. Lots of people every day use misinformation as a cornerstone / foundation for their existence. There are lots of people out there that are way over opinionated and simultaneously, criminally under or misinformed. Sad.

[kadun2]

Now that Eric Reid got signed by Carolina. You think the likelihood of a team signing Kaepernick increases significantly?!

I don’t think so. His poor decision making has consequences. He is seeing that play out right now. I would be surprised if he ever played NFL football again.

[Goddard]

Now that Eric Reid got signed by Carolina. You think the likelihood of a team signing Kaepernick increases significantly?!

I don’t think so. His poor decision making has consequences. He is seeing that play out right now. I would be surprised if he ever played NFL football again.

What poor decision making are you referring to?