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Ricardo Louis

Postby MarcoPolo25 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 8:36 am

Thoughts on Louis? Opportunity abounds and there seems to be plenty of garbage points to be had. What are is consensus on long term potential?
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby Plank » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:04 am

CLE has the 31st hardest schedule vs opposing pass defenses ..
28th hardest vs. opposing pass defenses (when adjusted to leave out garbage time stats) ..

2nd Half Hogan went for 16/19 for 194 yards, 2 TD:1INT, had 3 explosive pass (plays +15yds), 122.4 Rating, 63% successful play rate, 84% pass completion percentage, with avg YPA 10.2

Young QB's with >60% with >8 YPA often make it in this League, of course this is a very small sample size, one half of football, but its promising to monitor .. I think Hogan brings rhythm and timing to the offense with a quicker release time ..

2nd Half, Ricardo Louis had 5 targets, 3 completions, for 43 yards, avg 8.6, 2 First downs, 1 Explosive play

I think short term with Hogan, the question is, does Louis consistently show up where he is supposed to be, on time and open .. so moving forward with Hogan we really have to determine how good of a route runner he is, with Kizer, he held onto the ball so long, that plays were extended where it became more playground than a timing rhythm .. which would benefit a bigger guy that doesn't excel at routes ..

I am curious myself, but to me I think the guy who is where he is supposed to be is going to rise in the offense, I tend to lean to an inside game with their strength of schedule .. Looking to Higgins or Treggs..

Louis has good size and speed, 215 @ 4.43 ..
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby Space Cowboy » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:19 am

He's worth a roster spot for sure. He's way better than Higgins and Britt. Coleman isn't due back anytime soon.

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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby Servo » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:31 am

A lot of stat guys on Twitter have been digging into Hogan (as expected) and his numbers are coming out pretty darn positive.....

I wonder if he's going to become a thing?

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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby Plank » Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:38 am

He got my attention when he was at Stanford, always thought he could be something..

A note on Britt is like he is the opposite of however we define "clutch" ..
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby MarcoPolo25 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:11 am

Plank wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:04 am CLE has the 31st hardest schedule vs opposing pass defenses ..
28th hardest vs. opposing pass defenses (when adjusted to leave out garbage time stats) ..

2nd Half Hogan went for 16/19 for 194 yards, 2 TD:1INT, had 3 explosive pass (plays +15yds), 122.4 Rating, 63% successful play rate, 84% pass completion percentage, with avg YPA 10.2

Young QB's with >60% with >8 YPA often make it in this League, of course this is a very small sample size, one half of football, but its promising to monitor .. I think Hogan brings rhythm and timing to the offense with a quicker release time ..

2nd Half, Ricardo Louis had 5 targets, 3 completions, for 43 yards, avg 8.6, 2 First downs, 1 Explosive play

I think short term with Hogan, the question is, does Louis consistently show up where he is supposed to be, on time and open .. so moving forward with Hogan we really have to determine how good of a route runner he is, with Kizer, he held onto the ball so long, that plays were extended where it became more playground than a timing rhythm .. which would benefit a bigger guy that doesn't excel at routes ..

I am curious myself, but to me I think the guy who is where he is supposed to be is going to rise in the offense, I tend to lean to an inside game with their strength of schedule .. Looking to Higgins or Treggs..

Louis has good size and speed, 215 @ 4.43 ..
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Thanks for the detailed response! Makes sense. Guess the only thing that will tell is time eh?
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RB: Cook, Chubb, Carson, Gaskin, R. Stephenson, Elijah Mitchell, Jeff Wilson Jr
WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Juju, M. Williams, OBJ, Tylan Wallace, Darden, Deonte Harris
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby DinoDynasty » Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:54 am

I owned Louis earlier in the year and end up dropping him because I wanted to pick up A Jones a few weeks ago. Didn't have room for both.

I just traded K White for Louis. Even if Louis flops, the weight of getting rid of White is a blessing within itself.
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby Madadamus » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:09 pm

Britt left practice with a groin injury. Fire him up!
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby MarcoPolo25 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:36 pm

Jpalladino91 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:54 am I owned Louis earlier in the year and end up dropping him because I wanted to pick up A Jones a few weeks ago. Didn't have room for both.

I just traded K White for Louis. Even if Louis flops, the weight of getting rid of White is a blessing within itself.
Have a fellow league mate who REFUSES to admit White is done. His team is loaded and he will not drop White. Currently stashing him on IR even though he has OBJ (we only have 1 IR spot). I find this hilarious. :lol: :lol:
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1QB 2RB 2WR 1RB/WR/TE flex 1TE 1K 1 DST
1pt PPR
Qb: Jackson, M. Jones, Huntley
RB: Cook, Chubb, Carson, Gaskin, R. Stephenson, Elijah Mitchell, Jeff Wilson Jr
WR: D. Adams, K. Allen, Juju, M. Williams, OBJ, Tylan Wallace, Darden, Deonte Harris
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby DinoDynasty » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:19 pm

MarcoPolo25 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:36 pm
Jpalladino91 wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:54 am I owned Louis earlier in the year and end up dropping him because I wanted to pick up A Jones a few weeks ago. Didn't have room for both.

I just traded K White for Louis. Even if Louis flops, the weight of getting rid of White is a blessing within itself.
Have a fellow league mate who REFUSES to admit White is done. His team is loaded and he will not drop White. Currently stashing him on IR even though he has OBJ (we only have 1 IR spot). I find this hilarious. :lol: :lol:
Yea, I didn't have an extra IR spot after Cook went down, so White was taking up roster space. Considering he's making about $850k per catch over 3 years I think it's time we call him a bust.
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby DLF3000 » Thu Oct 12, 2017 4:39 pm

Had my eye on him for my last couple roster spots, but got Jordan Matthews and then Lewis instead.

That Browns team is horrid now and likely for a few more years, but he might be decent.
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby maxhyde » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:34 am

He is a plus athlete with little opportunity before now. There are worse fliers to be stashing
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby BuckeyeNation » Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:48 am

I think he'll be more useful rest of season than many do, especially if Hogan is the starter. Limited upside, but in a PPR league with deep lineups I think he'll be a guy you can plug in and get you 12-15pts on a semi-regular basis. With bye weeks in full swing and injuries mounting up, I think he can be a pretty solid piece to fill the gaps in your roster and give your team a slightly higher floor from week to week.
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby joeya2001 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:58 am

BuckeyeNation wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:48 am I think he'll be more useful rest of season than many do, especially if Hogan is the starter. Limited upside, but in a PPR league with deep lineups I think he'll be a guy you can plug in and get you 12-15pts on a semi-regular basis. With bye weeks in full swing and injuries mounting up, I think he can be a pretty solid piece to fill the gaps in your roster and give your team a slightly higher floor from week to week.
I bought in, I have a roster spot. if he is that good, once Coleman comes back he slides to #2 and has a better advantage.
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Re: Ricardo Louis

Postby ImaRounder » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:11 am

I've already started him in a couple places, and will continue to do so.


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