Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby Tsunami » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:23 pm

Well the obvious answer is all the injured guys: Ware, Edelman, Meredith, Corey Coleman, Dalvin Cook, Carson, Dixon, Enunwa, Fiedorowicz, Tannehill, maybe Kevin White and Allen Robinson. Plus whoever got hurt this week, I haven't checked yet.

There are a lot of top players who are free agents but it's hard to predict which ones will be lieaving. Eric Decker isn't being used well, or maybe he's done. I think Dion Lewis will probably get some interest. Paul Richardson might not be a buy low anymore but if he leaves Darboh could get more time. The Cardinals top 3 WRs are all free agents which might be good for JJ Nelson (and whoever decides to stay) but Palmer might be done too. I'd bet on Colt McCoy being a starting QB, and don't forget about Teddy Bridgewater for those in superflex leagues.

Also, Michael Floyd is playing tonight, and Mike Williams should be playing soon, last chance on these guys.

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:03 pm

It's hard to call Cooper a buy-low for 2018, when he still has a lot of season left. He could conceivably turn it around.

Allen Robinson is the #1 buy low to me. People are slowly starting to realize that he was largely responsible for making Bortles look like a competent QB for a season. Robinson is a complete talent and is young enough to marginalize an ACL tear. He could also be on a new team next season with a better QB.

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:33 pm

Any chance Luck is a buy low?? Imagine if he never ends up playing this year...
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby Bot101 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:53 pm

How about Watkins?

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby Generic Username » Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:30 pm

Bot101 wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:53 pm How about Watkins?



One more week similar to this past performance and he'll likely enter "random 1st only" territory with a lot of owners ready to bail

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby Shcritters » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:02 pm

Treadwell a buy low? I own him and would basically sell him for... anything. He’s running WR4 tonight and playing gunner on special teams. So happy I took him 1.03 last year. He’s at the bottom of my roster and I’m about to drop him.
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:11 pm

Shcritters wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:02 pm Treadwell a buy low? I own him and would basically sell him for... anything. He’s running WR4 tonight and playing gunner on special teams. So happy I took him 1.03 last year. He’s at the bottom of my roster and I’m about to drop him.
Agreed, he's only a buy low in the sense that you can buy him for much less than his price last year. I wouldn't pay more than a 4th for him
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby jcc6fd » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:06 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:11 pm
Shcritters wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:02 pm Treadwell a buy low? I own him and would basically sell him for... anything. He’s running WR4 tonight and playing gunner on special teams. So happy I took him 1.03 last year. He’s at the bottom of my roster and I’m about to drop him.
Agreed, he's only a buy low in the sense that you can buy him for much less than his price last year. I wouldn't pay more than a 4th for him
This is probably the fairest view I've seen of him. It's time to stop treating him like an elite prospect. I'd say he's worth a dart throw 3rd. I wouldn't pay a 2nd.
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby onetwothree » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:33 pm

I'd buy a guy like Tyrell Williams who will be a FA and will fly under the radar with Keenan back and Mike Williams about to debut. Tevin Coleman might be in a similar boat and if he leaves.

That's the profile of the guys I'd look at who will be too expensive for their current team but have shown ability to be the #1 option.

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby lukkynumber13 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:08 pm

onetwothree wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:33 pm I'd buy a guy like Tyrell Williams who will be a FA and will fly under the radar with Keenan back and Mike Williams about to debut. Tevin Coleman might be in a similar boat and if he leaves.

That's the profile of the guys I'd look at who will be too expensive for their current team but have shown ability to be the #1 option.
Like Ben Tate, Marvin Jones, & Toby Gerhardt? Just joking... kind of :P
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby BuckeyeNation » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:14 am

lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:08 pm
onetwothree wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:33 pm I'd buy a guy like Tyrell Williams who will be a FA and will fly under the radar with Keenan back and Mike Williams about to debut. Tevin Coleman might be in a similar boat and if he leaves.

That's the profile of the guys I'd look at who will be too expensive for their current team but have shown ability to be the #1 option.
Like Ben Tate, Marvin Jones, & Toby Gerhardt? Just joking... kind of :P
And every player you mentioned saw a solid spike in value when they went to a new team. If you held them then they mostly blew up in your face, but there was still a profit to be made with all those players if you "bought low" prior to their departure. The dynasty off-season is long, there can be big gains by playing the dynasty penny-stocks.

A big reason why I like buying-stashing upcoming FAs like the ones you mentioned is because of how the NFL off-season schedule plays out. FA happens a couple months before the draft, and by that time we've already had a few month lull in the dynasty game. That almost always leads to FAs that find new teams whose value spikes dramatically in mid March. Since there's nothing else going on during that time of year, the handful of players that change teams generate a lot of hype in the dynasty community during that period, warranted or not. It happened to some degree with all the players you mentioned, and I can still remember a decent amount of people that were giving a high 2nd or random 1st for Amendola a few years ago when he signed with NE. Hell, we started seeing it with Burkhead this year, but then that hype train got derailed when NE signed Gillislee week or so later. I have no doubt that Burkhead's value would have continued to climb if not for that.
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby bearsfan34 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:27 am

I'll throw Cameron Meredith on this list as well. Knee injury could have been a lot worse but it was "only" an ACL. I expect the Bears to do something at WR in the offseason, but Meredith when he was on the field was solid.

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby balaberda » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:52 am

Haha how much longer do we have to talk about Watkins being amazing. I feel sorry for those who have paid a lot and sat on this guy for years. I remember the debate of Watkins VS Evans Rip

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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:38 am

balaberda wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:52 am Haha how much longer do we have to talk about Watkins being amazing. I feel sorry for those who have paid a lot and sat on this guy for years. I remember the debate of Watkins VS Evans Rip
You're being a bit dramatic to talk about sitting on him "for years". He and Evans were on the same career track all the way up to week 1 of last season. Yes, it's been an extremely disappointing and frustrating 13 months but he doesn't have theoretical potential like a D. Parker or Corey Davis. He has proven to possess all-pro talent and production.
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Re: Lets talk Buy Low for 2018

Postby joedirte » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:45 pm

jcc6fd wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:06 pm
lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:11 pm
Shcritters wrote: Mon Oct 09, 2017 6:02 pm Treadwell a buy low? I own him and would basically sell him for... anything. He’s running WR4 tonight and playing gunner on special teams. So happy I took him 1.03 last year. He’s at the bottom of my roster and I’m about to drop him.
Agreed, he's only a buy low in the sense that you can buy him for much less than his price last year. I wouldn't pay more than a 4th for him
This is probably the fairest view I've seen of him. It's time to stop treating him like an elite prospect. I'd say he's worth a dart throw 3rd. I wouldn't pay a 2nd.
I wonder if he would be ok if the team wasn't so content just looking for Diggs, Theilen and Rudolph. He has been on the field a lot but they don't look in his direction.


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