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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:46 pm

maxhyde wrote:
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It seems like time. Then again, I thought this'd happen week 5 last year lol lol
Pretty much.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby BuckeyeNation » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:19 pm

Frustrating if you're a Henry owner, but the fact of the matter is that Demarco Murray is a good RB, really good. He's been underrated for years by both the fantasy and real football communities. I like what I've seen from Henry and think he has what it takes to be a successful workhouse RB, but the fact remains that he shares a backfield with a RB that's on par with him at the very least.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby saw061600 » Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:23 pm

I'm not hoping that Murray gets hurt, that would be wrong. But I'm not hoping he doesn't get hurt either; just saying.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby maxhyde » Mon Sep 25, 2017 9:49 am

saw061600 wrote:
Sun Sep 24, 2017 5:23 pm
I'm not hoping that Murray gets hurt, that would be wrong. But I'm not hoping he doesn't get hurt either; just saying.
He will have to get hurt for Henry to emerge
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Friction » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:04 am

It is tough nowadays having to hold a talented rb for 2, 3, maybe 4 years since it is a position that has a fairly instant impact amongst rookies. I like Henry and all, but when I hear 2 and 3 firsts being offered for him, I would probably do it. Maybe if they all "projected" to be later it would make me pause, but DeMarco just is not going away and is not getting injured like expected.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby The Red Rooster » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:06 am

Friction wrote:
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It is tough nowadays having to hold a talented rb for 2, 3, maybe 4 years since it is a position that has a fairly instant impact amongst rookies. I like Henry and all, but when I hear 2 and 3 firsts being offered for him, I would probably do it. Maybe if they all "projected" to be later it would make me pause, but DeMarco just is not going away and is not getting injured like expected.
As a Henry owner, I hate agreeing with this, but I do.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby jcc6fd » Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:47 am

The Red Rooster wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:06 am
Friction wrote:
Mon Sep 25, 2017 10:04 am
It is tough nowadays having to hold a talented rb for 2, 3, maybe 4 years since it is a position that has a fairly instant impact amongst rookies. I like Henry and all, but when I hear 2 and 3 firsts being offered for him, I would probably do it. Maybe if they all "projected" to be later it would make me pause, but DeMarco just is not going away and is not getting injured like expected.
As a Henry owner, I hate agreeing with this, but I do.
This is how I see it. I like Henry's upside, but to value him as an elite asset never made sense to me (unless you drafted as a rookie before the Murray Signing, in which case your frustration is legitimate, but your valuation still isn't). Why would I spend multiple firsts or an early first on a RB who will be in his age 24/25 season before he has a realistic chance at being the lead RB without an injury? And that's not taking into account that Murray is signed through 2019. And why are we assuming guy with 0 career starts will be elite? Wouldn't I rather spend that capital on rookies actually drafted to be a team's workhorse who are younger and with better NFL draft capital? My theory is that there is a lag effect from the horrifically poor 2016 draft (offense at least), where dynasty owners assumed (hoped) Henry would be a stud because he was the 2nd best option. Because he's been behind Murray we have plausible deniability related to his actual failure to be fantasy relevant, so his value hasn't dropped proportionate to his performance, rather it increased as the anticipation grew.

If the community was saying, "hey pick up Henry now with a late first because he could explode if given opportunity" I'd get behind it. But he was declared an elite asset before doing anything making him a terrible value for what he really represents. But instead of ranting I guess I should just be grateful. Last week's assumption that Murray was done for allowed me to scoop him up for a future 2nd.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Oddball456 » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:48 am

So, are people still interested in trading for Henry since he has been so quiet the past several weeks? Knowing that Murray is signed for 2 more years after 2017 (I don't know about cap hit is the titans move on early) is Henry going to be a roster clogger for 2.5 years unless Murray gets hurt? I am still interested in his talent but that seems like a lot of risk / time to invest.

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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby rubber_duck » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:55 am

Maybe this kid will be a re-run of Larry Johnson.

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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Concept Coop » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:28 pm

Oddball456 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:48 am
So, are people still interested in trading for Henry since he has been so quiet the past several weeks? Knowing that Murray is signed for 2 more years after 2017 (I don't know about cap hit is the titans move on early) is Henry going to be a roster clogger for 2.5 years unless Murray gets hurt? I am still interested in his talent but that seems like a lot of risk / time to invest.
They can cut Murray at no hit after the season if they want to. I'm not sure if they will, however, based on usage. Murray clearly has their trust.

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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:33 pm

Oddball456 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:48 am
So, are people still interested in trading for Henry since he has been so quiet the past several weeks? Knowing that Murray is signed for 2 more years after 2017 (I don't know about cap hit is the titans move on early) is Henry going to be a roster clogger for 2.5 years unless Murray gets hurt? I am still interested in his talent but that seems like a lot of risk / time to invest.
I think the risk is low. Murray turns 30 in February and is unlikely to be on the Titans by the time Henry's contract is up in two seasons.

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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby jcc6fd » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:09 pm

Cameron Giles wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 3:33 pm
Oddball456 wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:48 am
So, are people still interested in trading for Henry since he has been so quiet the past several weeks? Knowing that Murray is signed for 2 more years after 2017 (I don't know about cap hit is the titans move on early) is Henry going to be a roster clogger for 2.5 years unless Murray gets hurt? I am still interested in his talent but that seems like a lot of risk / time to invest.
I think the risk is low. Murray turns 30 in February and is unlikely to be on the Titans by the time Henry's contract is up in two seasons.
Don't think you need to worry about Henry clogging your roster for two more years, but the origin of the thread assumed he would be leading the backfield 2 weeks ago.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:42 pm

jcc6fd wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:09 pm
Don't think you need to worry about Henry clogging your roster for two more years, but the origin of the thread assumed he would be leading the backfield 2 weeks ago.
It's still very possible he could end up leading this backfield by the end of the season. If the last few weeks have opened up an opportunity to buy for a more reasonable price, then jump on it.

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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby The Red Rooster » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:06 pm

It always bothered me that Mularky flat out said Murray will be the workhorse in MARCH...without hesitation. It never made sense to me why he wouldn't promote a competition between the two and instead just handed the backfield to Murray. As a Henry owner, I'm worried about next yr also.
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Re: Lasst chance to buy Henry?

Postby Defender » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:56 pm

So if this 5 week trend continues through the whole season, in January would you trade Henry and a late 1st for the 1.01 to grab a Barkley/ Guice/ Chubb?
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